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Proposal: SteemWorld Support
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## Introduction
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As I want to continue my development on <a href="https://steemworld.org">SteemWorld</a> and the lack of funds/resources has always been a huge hurdle for me, I think it is a good idea to use the SPS for funding my work in future. To be honest, as many have read in my last post, there is no other way for me to be able to continue on my current path and I may have to shut my services down, if this here should not work out.

How often in the last years did I ask myself something like: 'When will you finally make your next post and earn something for all that, what you have built here over the past weeks?' I can tell you, that has never been a good feeling for me. So, after the work was done (sometimes even in then midst of all), I was on a run to write an article about my work in a language that is not my mother tongue, just to be able to pay my servers and costs of living in general.

I am the only one who is working on SteemWorld (front & back-end) and I hope you can imagine that there cannot have been much time for other things in my life over the years. My wife, family and friends can write a book about this.

Over a year ago I told them that it is just a matter of time until I will be able to make a living of it. Now I am still sitting here in my room, thousands of people use my tools daily and my bank account is still unable to show me a green light.

I love to develop things for Steem, which make our lifes easier, and deeply in my heart I hope that the opportunity given here will be able to change my financial status finally.

## Funding
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I request 28,105 SBD for 365 days.

Since I am the 'team' and there are no others, who could continue the work on the front-end in case something unforeseeable happens on the server, I cannot always predict when exactly a new feature will be available on the site. The same is true, if I see something in my code that needs my attention.

As a perfectionist, my way of getting things done does not always go straight to the goal without taking care of all that, what is calling for help around me, but in the end, it is always way more pleasurable for me to solve upcoming issues directly. There is no deadline for building SteemWorld, especially not as long as I am on a one-man-mission, but I think the SPS can help me to better organize my planned tasks from now on.

The finished result will always be a stable, high quality product. Additional funding finally can bring it all to a level, on which I really can be satisfied with the results. It enables me to work more freely and at the same time more goal oriented, because it takes away the well known fear of not being able to make it through the next monthly bills.

Did I tell you that searching for transfers by using the "Search Transfer" tool on SteemWorld was way faster, before I removed some huge database indices? The only reason for removing them was the lack of available SSD space on my main server.

The same is true for my coming SDS (Steem Data Service). Until now I could not continue to work on it, just because I don't have enough disk space on that server. I would love to have it on a separate dedicated machine, because this would greatly extend the limits (especially for testing purposes, full blockchain-replays) and the whole development experience would be much more satisfying for me.

I don't want to create multiple proposals over the year and decided to make one for each 365 days, so that I can finally fully focus on getting the planned things done. Of course, I will post updates periodically to inform you about my progress, but I won't take rewards from the pool anymore and will decline the payout on all of my related SteemWorld posts.

## Main Goals
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### SMT & Steem Engine Support

I already prepared my codebase in the past weeks to be able to work with tokens of different types and a big part of what is to come is already done. After finishing the delegations and market orders for SETs (Steem Engine Tokens) in the next few weeks, I will start to prepare SteemWorld for working with SMTs.

As I did not find time yet to fully explore the coming APIs and new possibilities with SMTs, I will update this post later and add more details on what exactly is about to come.

### Mobile SteemWorld Version

I know that many users of SteemWorld are waiting for a mobile/responsive version and this will besides SDS (after SMTs) be one of the main points on my list for the coming months.

### Separating Page Features

Currently nearly all features on the site are compressed like a swiss knife and are only reachable via the main page. I want to change this in future, so that we can create an account by visiting `steemworld.org/tools/create-account` or see only the recent account history (operations) directly on `steemworld.org/@user/history`. It would then also be possible to work with URL parameters, so that for example when someone wants to make a transfer to a specific account, he could open a link like `steemworld.org/tools/transfer?to=[target_account]` and the given fields in the transfer form would be automatically pre-filled.

### Interactive Post Editor

This is a nice to have but not really essential feature for SteemWorld. There are already great platforms like SteemPeak available that enable us to work with templates and all that stuff, therefore (and because a day has only 24 hours) I currently  do not see a high priority for spending time on the editor.

In any case, first I need to switch to a responsive layout and wait for the SMT hardfork, because otherwise there would be too many later adaptions to be made. So, it will take a while until I will think about this feature's relevance again. 

Here are some previews from my related posts:

https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmcJaofyGpF1y4vtoGXehTfGy1orCE1yRnsHTSpHxxVUG6/steemworld-post-editor-preview.png

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https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmZtBoNsjE5N2FrwPRNcbAwoME4uHA9swCGDG6fsjphGow/steemworld-post-editor-form-tools.png

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#### Animated GIFs

<a href="https://steemworld.org/preview/steemworld-post-editor-preview1.gif">Preview 1 (fixing the typo in 'headar' with the editor)</a>
<a href="https://steemworld.org/preview/steemworld-post-editor-preview2.gif">Preview 2 (just playing around)</a>

### SDS (Open Source Steem Data Service based on Node.js)

Finishing the SDS is my main goal for the coming year. I did not talk much about it in my recent posts, but a huge part of my available time in the past year went into developing SDS. As long as I am working on its base and full data replays/compression methods are being tested, I will have time for working on the SteemWorld front-end, especially on the features mentioned above.  

For most SteemWorld users the SDS is not really important to know, because it is more of a developer/statistics/investigation tool that can be used locally as well as for a public web service. It lays the groundwork for the future and coming SteemWorld features, which I cannot build with my current setup or any other available data service.

SBDS and Hivemind are good solutions for working with the blockchain data in a non-consensus way, but I want to provide a more configurable solution with compression and possibilities for own database structures in mind.

Earlier this year I wrote:

>As I mentioned in my last post, I'm currently working on my Open Source Steem Data Service and I've already made great progress with it. The old (current) SteemWorld back-ends both run on PHP (one dedicated machine for serving the account data requests coming from steemworld.org and one simple host for providing the page itself and for acting as kind of a backup storage). The new back-end will use the SDS and it will be based purely on Node.js, which outperforms Apache/PHP with ease as shown in the following diagram:

https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmdDhCMZkgQLZ7GFLtPbbhLUcanXfuoEzyqhSmMZRo49rg/nodejs-vs-php-performance-requests-per-second.png
<sub>https://www.hostingadvice.com/blog/comparing-node-js-vs-php-performance</sub>

>I guess some of you can image that it's kind of an adventure to convert the existing back-end logic from PHP to asynchronous JS, but I already can tell you that it's worth it without any doubt. Future is here and I'm finally working with JavaScript on the client and the server side without the need of switching between different languages anymore.

SDS includes never seen compression techniques, so that the blockchain can be stored in a super compact format. There will be different compression modes available (full/lite), so that each of us can decide which one to use by changing the setting in the SDS config file.

Some of you may know the XZ compressor (based on LZMA), which on a level 9 (extreme mode, param '-e') setting compresses blocks to approximately 1/8 of the original size. With SDS in compression mode 'full' it is possible to compress them to a size that is ~ 0.63 times the size of the best XZ compression result. When the time has come, I will make an additional post about the SDS to explain how it all works.

Some facts:

- Runs on Linux, Mac and Windows

- Free to use, will be released under MIT license

- Can be started locally or as public web service

- Enables each of us to analyze and work with the Steem blockchain data in a simple and very efficient way (SQL and custom queries can be used too)

- Syncing can be done via available public instances (very fast) or regular Steem nodes

- Provides automatic downloading of already parsed data (no need to start from block 1)

- No need to setup any database services (all file-based -> no layers in between -> lightning fast on SSD)

- Offers configurable datasets (if you just need a db with all transfers, you can run an instance with only the desired parser module 'transfers' enabled)

- Also virtual operations can be parsed (or downloaded from one of my servers that will also provide all parsed datasets)

- JS developers can easily implement own parser modules (just add a custom script in the modules path and the service will call the `parseBlock`, `parseTransaction`, `parseOperation` and `parseVirtualOperation` methods within your script for each block)

- Highly compressed data (some crazy stuff and a bit of magic involved here)

- Can be used as REST API:
`//[domain or localhost]/sds/get_block/1`
=> returns block 1 as JSON
`/sds/get_blocks/1-1000`
=> returns 1000 blocks (1 to 1000) with one request in second(s)

- Custom APIs that make use of the parsed data could look like:
`/sds/get_followers/steemchiller`
=> returns my followers
...

## Open Source
---

Since quite some time already, I am in the process of preparing my code to be published on GitHub. As I want to deliver a clean and secure solution for the whole Steem community, it's hard to say exactly, when SteemWorld will be completely open source, but I am doing my best to get it done until Q2 2020.

## Closing Words
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Of course, I cannot predict the future and there might come small additions/changes to the planned features in the coming months. I will keep you updated on my progress periodically and, as stated earlier, I will decline payout for my SteemWorld posts as soon as I get enough votes for this proposal.

**If you think that I bring value to Steem and you want me to continue my development, please vote for my proposal:**

- <a href="https://steemproposals.com/proposal/33">steemproposals.com/proposal/33</a>
- <a href="https://beta.steemconnect.com/sign/update-proposal-votes?proposal_ids=[33]&approve=true">click here to use SteemConnect</a>

**View all proposals on:**

- <a href="https://steemworld.org/proposals">steemworld.org/proposals</a>
- <a href="https://steemproposals.com/proposals">steemproposals.com/proposals</a>
- <a href="https://steemitwallet.com/proposals">steemitwallet.com/proposals</a>
- <a href="https://steempeak.com/proposals">steempeak.com/proposals</a>

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@toofasteddie ·
Your tool is the most used at the steem Blockchain, you have my vote and support always. !BEER

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@ew-and-patterns · (edited)
Literally, everyone with stake uses it daily... He deserves this funding 100%. I hope the community will instantly push it past the return proposal
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@beerlover ·
<div class='pull-right'>https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmXK1U89BrMJHwgv6BysSpYswN7NA39URStPi65azu3PJo/Sich%20f%C3%BCllendes%20Bierglas.gif<p><sup>View or trade <code>BEER</code> at <a href='https://steem-engine.com/?p=market&t=BEER'>steem-engine</a>.</sup></p></div><center><br><br> <p> Hey @steemchiller, here is a bit <code>BEER</code> for you. Enjoy it!</p> </center>
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@toofasteddie ·
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Shit!, I cannot find your proposal... did you upload it?
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@steemchiller · (edited)
$1.03
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Seems like KeyChain doesn't work. I tried in Firefox and Brave.
No error message returned...

Update: Now it worked with Brave ;)
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@ew-and-patterns ·
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I have the same issue with keychain when trying to approve proposals on steampeak interface .
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@abdulmanan ·
When ever i want to see something on steem blockchain, i quickly switch to steemworld.org and I am agree yours is one of the most used tool built on steem blockchain or for steem blockchain, I can not do anything, but given you 5 cent vote and my support for this proposal to get approved.
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@jlsplatts ·
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You have created a great tool for everyone who uses Steem. You have made it so simple to claim all Steem-engine rewards with a simple click of a button. I use Steemworld everyday and really do appreciate the product you have created. Hang in there, things will get better. 

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@gillianpearce ·
$0.06
Good luck with you proposal. I love Steem World and use it every day i am on the platform.

I clicked on the link in your post but have no idea how to vote for your proposal. Could you maybe take a screen shot to demonstrate.

Thanks!
👍  
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@steemchiller ·
$0.59
It's really simple, just go to
https://steemproposals.com/proposal/33

https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmeoDwFdiQDWLjvLcsHPc9vx4wc8RG1jGE5oTAXy1Ak7rz/vote-for-steem-proposal.png

and click on 'Support With KeyChain' or 'Support With SteemConnect'.

In case you are using Firefox or you don't have the KeyChain browser addon installed, you can either install it in Chrome/Brave or use SteemConnect.
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@gillianpearce ·
Thanks.

Done!

I don't know what I clicked on before but I didn't end up on that page. &#128514;
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@cflclosers ·
thanks for posting this. I didn't know how to vote.  I appreciate all you do and love using your tools.  I will follow you and vote your posts as well
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@leroy.linientreu ·
I do not understand that technical stuff, but I will send my steem-rewards to you until the situation has become better. Manually, but I suppose that doesn't make any difference for you.
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@steemprojects ·
This post has been just added as new item to _[timeline of SteemWorld on Steem Projects](https://steemprojects.com/projects/p/steemworld/?utm_source=comment_timeline&utm_medium=steem&utm_campaign=new_event&utm_content=c1)_.

If you want to be notified about new updates from this project, register on Steem Projects and add SteemWorld to your favorite projects.
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@miti ·
$0.09
I can't imagine a time without SteemWorld! So you have all my support!
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@barton26 ·
I'm proud to support the great work you do for this chain.  You have my vote!  Keep doing the amazing work you do for Steem!
👍  
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@athomewithcraig ·
I love this! This is a no-brainer vote.
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@thales7 ·
Ohne dich wäre steem undenkbar und wir alle sind dir deiner Arbeit wegen dankbar. 👏👏👏

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@michelangelo3 ·
Ganz klar, mein Stimmchen hast du + Resteem. Viel Glück! 
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@ewkaw ·
Voted (I hope I did it correctly).
Hope others do them same. Fingers crossed :)
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@vieanna ·
$0.08
Lieber Steemciller, ich wünsche dir viel Erfolg mit deinem Antrag! Damit du dich weiterhin der Arbeit  an der SteemWorld widmen kannst, die für mich, wie für so viele andere, inzwischen unverzichtbar geworden ist.
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@alex-m4h ·
Hast du eigentlich auch einen Patreon Account?

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@cardboard ·
$0.05
Guys, if you have problem voting with the keychain, you can use steemconnect here:
https://steemproposals.com/proposal/33
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@bleujay ·
Thank you @cardboard,

Completed with ease.

Cheers!
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@dswigle ·
Thank you @cardboard! I would tip you, but, you already own that bank.  ;)
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@cardboard · (edited)
After Hf21 I'm sending everything to investors ;)
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@amico ·
!giphy LOL & !BEER
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@mytunes ·
Voted!
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@artemisa7 ·
Proposal supported.
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@drakernoise ·
$0.02
I wish that at least people can vote. Wished I had more resources to donate to you but couldn’t afford more. One can help as one’s capacity, that was mine.
Hope your proposal gets approved soon, I honestly think you deserve it, not gonna flatter just a bit on this, facts are enough.
Proposal voted of course!
Hugs
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@double-u ·
$0.15
Lieber @steemchiller,

ich bin nun in der Liste der Supporter. Das hat geklappt.

Sollte man jetzt auch noch irgendwie voten?

Ich fände es gut, wenn du oben in deinem Post eine kleine Anleitung schreiben würdest, wie man dich bei dieser Sache am besten unterstützen kann.
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@steemchiller ·
$0.69
Vielen Dank für die Unterstützung!

>Sollte man jetzt auch noch irgendwie voten?

Dein Vote wurde auf jeden Fall gezählt.
Du brauchst also erstmal nichts mehr zu tun ;)

>Ich fände es gut, wenn du oben in deinem Post eine kleine Anleitung schreiben würdest, wie man dich bei dieser Sache am besten unterstützen kann.

Ja, ich werde mir da noch was einfallen lassen. Am besten wäre natürlich die Funktion direkt in SteemWorld zu haben. Ich bin da leider nicht mehr zu gekommen in den letzten Tagen, aber werde mich da später mal ransetzen.

LG, Chiller
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@felt.buzz ·
I have voted for you! :)
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@denmarkguy ·
$0.09
Absolutely 100% support for this *@steemchiller,* I really hope the community steps up and shows its support! There are huge numbers of people who significant stake who use SteemWorld.org every day *(and we KNOW this because screen shots of bits and pieces on their SteemWorld page shows up in their posts!)* and hopefully they will get behind this, too.
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@dandays ·
People.. it’s a few clicks. Vote for @steemchiller. Steemworld is the best front out there.
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@circa ·
I can't imagine a Steem without Steemworld! I hope the community can gather around you for support.

I've promoted your post on eSteem for the next 7 days. Good luck!
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@steemium ·
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@rycharde ·
$0.09
You have my support.

But... one important point: I think that SPS proposals *do not* use the proxies that users may have setup for witness votes. If I'm wrong, then please correct this, but it means each of those accounts needs to vote individually on proposals.
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@soyrosa ·
$0.08
![Screen Shot 20190913 at 23.34.07.png](https://files.steempeak.com/file/steempeak/soyrosa/ng6uMJUv-Screen20Shot202019-09-1320at2023.34.07.png)

On https://steemproposals.com/proposal/33 you can click on *supporters* and see the votes *plus* the amount of proxy they add to their vote. From what I've been told this indeed comes from the witness proxies some people have set up.
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@rycharde ·
Thanks, I stand corrected.
However, if the proxy-following account then also votes, it looks like it gets counted twice, at least looking at the numbers.
is this a bug?
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@soyrosa ·
$0.13
I already told you last week I would support you adding a Proposal for Steemworld - I use steemworld.org more often than all the frontends combined, it's really a 'catch all' for Steem and we need you to be able to keep working on this - with *less financial stress*. 

Thanks for all that you've done already without getting much for it in return - now I'm off to vote :D Cheers!
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@supdork ·
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@soyrosa ·
$0.07
> This is a nice to have but not really essential feature for SteemWorld. There are already great platforms like SteemPeak available that enable us to work with templates and all that stuff, therefore (and because a day has only 24 hours) I currently do not see a high priority for spending time on the editor.

I think this is correct - an editor wouldn't have high priority for me either. However, if you can make a steemworld.org mobile version that still feels light-weight that would be a big win for Steem :-) 
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@steemchiller · (edited)
$0.30
Thanks for your input!

>However, if you can make a steemworld.org mobile version that still feels light-weight that would be a big win for Steem :-)

The good thing is that I myself am a fan of light-weight and fast-running apps, so I think there is no other way out ;)
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@agrostis ·
$0.70
Thanks for you splendid work.

To help with your development/support costs, I've sent you 50 Steem . Hope this helps.
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@brupvoter ·
re-agrostis-pxshs4-20190913t234926530z
You got a 56.69% upvote from @brupvoter courtesy of @agrostis!
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@nickyhavey ·
You get my full support on this proposal. Steemworld is a go to for a lot of steemians and it would be a travesty if you didn't get the support you needed to maintain it.

Hope to see many more vote for you here

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@dtrade ·
Thanks for using #steemleo tag. Here is my support and #steemleo community is also eager to support the project.
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@howo ·
$1.25
Cool feature set, but this definitely doesn't deserve 28k. And not over a period of a year. I would suggest that you break this proposal into sub proposals, each proposal being one of the big features. like "mobile steemworld", "sds", "interactive post editor".

This way people can support what they want to support. I am down for the sds part. I don't care about the steemworld parts. Thus I won't be in favor of your proposal because I know that some of the funding will go to things I don't want/care about.

Also I don't think the sps should be used to fund closed source projects (like steemworld, correct me if I'm wrong). 

Tl;dr : the sds is a great use case for the sps, the rest not so much.
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@disregardfiat ·
$0.08
2k a month. (28k / 12 ) * $0.80 SBD.

Let’s ask this question a different way. How much would it cost to train a replacement for @steemchiller when he realizes that server costs and post rewards don’t put food on the table. Is anybody else stepping up to the plate to make an investment of time and money in to this ecosystem? Would you take a full time job for 2k a month? I wouldn’t take a full time job for 2k a week. Let alone pay for a server on a platform you’re hoping explodes in popularity.

As far as breaking proposals up that’s pretty dumb too. It costs $8 just to ask for funding once. Considering your complaining about less than $500 a week I doubt you’d pitch in to pay that listing fee. Do you think servers suddenly cost less to run when steem is more popular or the “feature set” is done? 

If there is ever a point you don’t want this proposal to be paid you can simply remove your vote for free... proposals are paid out in hourly increments, not all at once. 

Tl;dr Take your funds to a plantation and wait for a civil war. 



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@howo ·
> Posted using Partiko iOS 

First of all I respect that you wrote so much on a phone 

> How much would it cost to train a replacement for @steemchiller 

Train ? This is not a company. We do not pay for someone to be trained. They come in ready to work or they don't. 

> Is anybody else stepping up to the plate to make an investment of time and money in to this ecosystem? 

Well, pretty much everyone ? Steempeak comes to mind. And I am sure that they have spent waay more time and effort into their front end than steemchiller with his toolbox.  I could give you 5-10 different people and projects that made investment to the ecosystem.

> Would you take a full time job for 2k a month?  

He won't be full time. And with the perks that come with it, working from home, delivering something that can be done in 3 months in a year, that's a pretty sweet deal. You work your regular job and on the weekends you push a few features. Bam you just doubled your salary depending where you live.

> I wouldn’t take a full time job for 2k a week. 

Where are you living where you refuse jobs that pay 8k a month ? 

> Let alone pay for a server on a platform you’re hoping explodes in popularity.

If you're a good system engineeer, you setup your thing so it can scale, not so it is overkill from the start. And nothing gonna explode in popularity, this is steem, there is like 6k active users on it, and this is a niche tool for power users or developers. 

You are implying that server costs are huge, perhaps even more than 2k but I am pretty sure that unless he overkill his setup he can get away with 30-100 euros a month. Depending on use.

> As far as breaking proposals up that’s pretty dumb too. It costs $8 just to ask for funding once.

It's a good system to avoid having tons of bad proposals and make sure people really put their effort into it. The guy is asking 2k a month, how is 8$ a problem ? 

>  Do you think servers suddenly cost less to run when steem is more popular or the “feature set” is done?

Once again, servers don't cost that much. You are implying that he pays like 500 euros a month to pay them. This is bullshit. Either he is bad at optimizing his code or he is bad at sizing his servers or both. Or he is not paying that much in servers.

If this proposal run for a year to pay server costs then he should make a proposal with exactly that and another proposal for the features. 

> If there is ever a point you don’t want this proposal to be paid you can simply remove your vote for free... proposals are paid out in hourly increments, not all at once.

We all know how hard it is to make whales move their votes. As we've seen with witnesses. And the point where I don't want this proposal to be paid is now. And for the whole year.

> Tl;dr Take your funds to a plantation and wait for a civil war.

?? 

On closing words, let me come back on this :

> How much would it cost to train a replacement for @steemchiller when he realizes that server costs and post rewards don’t put food on the table

This is the main problem with this proposal, public funds (the sps) will fund a closed source project that he can delete whenever he feels like. So we are benefitting an individual, not the community. If steemworld was open source then all of the funds would actually go towards a tool that doesn't solely depends on steemchiller but if he were to ever stop working on it (which can happen for tons of reasons, including death, which already happened to devs on the chain), the value that the tool brings is still here because anyone can run it (and pay the oh terrible server fees), make updates to it etc.
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@therealwolf ·
$0.08
I agree. SteemWorld is an amazing tool and I'm glad to see those weekly posts to be rewarded quite a lot recently. But I don't think it's the best move to ask for a year worth of rewards. At this price, over 175k STEEM. I also find it difficult to actually see what this proposal is about. The different topics should have their own proposal with a shorter time period & lower budget. This doesn't mean that the work introduced shouldn't be rewarded, but I guess it should also be thought about making it open-source.
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@roleerob ·
$0.29
Given all of our rich diversity here on our Steem blockchain, I for one respect differences of opinion.  *"As one man sharpens another"* is an old saying which states very succinctly what I want to say here and now.

Your comments here @howo, resulting in the exchange with @disregardfiat, can (and should be, from my perspective) be seen as adding value to this post.  You raise some valid questions / concerns and they should be discussed.

But ...  __*How on earth*__ do you justify downvoting @steemchiller's post here?  Thereby reducing the value of what he will receive from the support of so many others?  How do you explain that?
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@howo · (edited)
$0.23
I'm downvoting him because he stacked tons of bidbots and I am against that. Also it's a way of showing my disagreement, but it's mostly about the bidbots, I'm voicing my disagreement in the comments.
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@nuancedthought ·
Says the man who made a proposal for a secondary tool just for downvotes ... at least steemworld is a complex toolset that people actually use and not just a downvote tool that only what like a few whales use? 
Is this a case of the pot calling the kettle black?

But with that said I'd rather see all these tools that steemchiller has integrated into an actual interface for users, have you considered talking to the interfaces @steemchiller? 
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@lanzjoseg ·
Hello @steemchiller

Here I am as always, placing my grain of sand, you deserve it for your dedication.

Greetings from Venezuela a country that elucha for their freedom.
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@cwow2 ·
$0.05
Not sure why you would decline payout for steemworld related posts if you got this funding.
Wouldn't it be smart to post up the updates to be more robust in the future, when the funding stops?
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@nigelmarkdias · (edited)
Thank you! 🙏 @SteemChiller for making a better #Steem experience for all of us.
Voted 🗳 for your proposal.
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@pennsif ·
This post has been included in the latest edition of  [**The Steem News**](https://steempeak.com/@pennsif/the-steem-news-13-september-2019) - a compilation of the key news stories on the Steem blockchain.
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@farizal ·
Your service was too good until I can't live without a day checking out steemworld. The UX was a work of genius. I will vote for your proposal. Everyone in STEEM should do the same too.
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@supdork ·
Sup Dork?!? Enjoy the Upvote!!! Keep up with the dorky content for more love!!!
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@azircon ·
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I voted for the proposal. Even as largely an outsider I used your services most often. Any help you need, than I can, I am willing
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@financialadvice ·
This is a great proposal! Going to support it and love your services.
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@abitcoinskeptic ·
$0.08
I think you deserve this support and the amount you are asking for is completely reasonable given how great your site is. I hope it is funded soon.
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@roger5120 ·
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@gadrian ·
You have my vote(s) and my resteem. Looking forward to see further development in Steemworld!
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@lichtblick · (edited)
$0.08
Voted and resteemed :-) Pinned post on FB.
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@kaminchan ·
Thanks for all your hard work! 

Have a restful weekend!
Cheers.
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@michaeljn · (edited)
@steemchiller 
Ok, done voting, I think said transaction on it's way, so assume it is done, I love Steem world and is one of the first things I log into every morning, hope this works out for you, great job so far, all the best @steemchiller

resteemed.
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@darrenfj ·
Your work is invaluable and I hope the powers that be see that..

good luck, brutha!
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@ervin-lemark ·
$0.08
Fully upvoted, resteemed, supported 1000%.

# Steemworld is the best and most essential steem platform tool. Period!
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@chruuselbeeri ·
Vielen Dank für deine Arbeit.
Sie ist eine echte Hilfe für die Anwendung von Steemit.
Alles Gute wünsche ich dir.
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@d-zero ·
I've been waiting for a proposal like this. I use Steemworld.org everyday mainly o save my time with STEEM-Engine. The features available are simply amazing. Thank you so much for all you work. ope to see this proposal approved ASAP :)
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@kaeves4711 ·
i wanna help as much as i can.
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@muscara ·
$0.06
Was wollte mir Steemworld hier Wichtiges mitteilen? Kam nach Klick auf "claim all rewards", was über Keychain ganz normal ablief.

![grafik.png](https://steemitimages.com/360x0/https://files.steempeak.com/file/steempeak/muscara/o0AORY9k-grafik.png)
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@steemchiller · (edited)
$0.48
Danke für den Hinweis! Vermutlich ist mit dem letzten KeyChain Update (kam bei mir gestern Abend an) etwas geändert worden. Werde ich gleich mal prüfen ;)

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Update: Bei mir läuft es ohne Probleme.
Ist das bei dir nochmal aufgetreten?
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@muscara ·
$0.04
Nein, ist es nicht. Ich hab es allerdings auch nicht gleich anschließend erneut versucht, denn das was ich wollte lief ja. 
Ich hab das nur mitgeteilt weil es ja hätte sein können dass da eine wichtige Information hätte kommen sollen - man weiß ja nie ;)
Danke und nen schönen Abend!
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@brianoflondon ·
You've had a few steem direct from me from time to time but you've got my vote now too.
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@shortsegments ·
How do we vote for your proposal?
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@steemchiller ·
$0.49
<a href="/@steemchiller/pxsdbc">Here is the answer</a>
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@shortsegments · (edited)
Thank you for your reply. Do you know where I can go to find out how many people use Steemworld in a day, week or month?

Thanks
By the way you are 50% beneficiary of this post about Steemworld.

https://steemit.com/realityhubs/@shortsegments/my-review-of-the-application-steemworld-a-very-good-application-to-manage-all-your-tribes-and-your-progress-on-steemit
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@alinix ·
SteemWorld Rocks ! Thank you so much for all your hard work, resteemed & upvoted ;)

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@muscara ·
Programmieren macht durstig - auch von mir ein !BEER
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@beerlover ·
<div class='pull-right'>https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmXK1U89BrMJHwgv6BysSpYswN7NA39URStPi65azu3PJo/Sich%20f%C3%BCllendes%20Bierglas.gif<p><sup>View or trade <code>BEER</code> at <a href='https://steem-engine.com/?p=market&t=BEER'>steem-engine</a>.</sup></p></div><center><br><br> <p> Hey @steemchiller, here is a bit <code>BEER</code> for you. Enjoy it!</p> </center>
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@wayo ·
I think the content in your article is enough to start gofundme or indiegogo page. Try multiple options, segregate information and explain it well, it's not that hard to grab money when proposal is well explained.
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@balte ·
$0.08
You have my support for the proposal of course! best regards!
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@chesatochi ·
$0.08
I know you work hard to enhance this tool all the time and is the only one I use now. I vote for the 1 year development and improvement.
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@icondark ·
I've got to admit I zoned out on the technical stuff; but you run an awesome service that gets better every update.    I hope you find a way to at least continue to run it as-is, even if you have to stop adding features.
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@roleerob · (edited)
$0.24
Yes @steemchiller …

> *”… and I hope you can imagine that there cannot have been much time for other things in my life over the years. My wife, family and friends can write a book about this.”*

I and I am sure many others “in here” can most definitely imagine.  Your post here and some of the initial comments I have read certainly bring sharply into focus the question of whether you, or anyone for that matter, can actually make a living developing code for our Steem blockchain.  At least, at STEEM’s current price in the marketplace …

> *”As a perfectionist, my way of getting things done does not always go straight to the goal without taking care of all that, what is calling for help around me, but in the end, it is always way more pleasurable for me to solve upcoming issues directly.”*

With some experience with programming and databases, I can relate to this.  And, as a result …

> *”The finished result will always be a stable, high quality product.’*

… you have long provided a service which many, many Steemians are very grateful to have available to them on their individual “journeys” through the Steemisphere.

From here, I can only say I continue to support your work.  And, as a man of my word, I will vote for your proposal.  You have earned my trust and confidence.  But …  Very openly and honestly, it is not without a little discomfort with some of the questions raised.  Chief among them, as I read through the comments, is closed-source coding and the resulting concern - *”what if something happens to you?”*  Perhaps you will choose to address some of these concerns.  Thoughtfully and conscientiously, as always.  In whatever manner seems best to you.

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Edit: Your time is valuable.  I will take your response to @howo as response enough for me, to what I have written here @steemchiller.  Thanks! &#128077;
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@steemchiller · (edited)
$0.77
Thank you for your, as always, very insightful thoughts @roleerob!

> Chief among them, as I read through the comments, is closed-source coding and the resulting concern - ”what if something happens to you?” Perhaps you will choose to address some of these concerns. Thoughtfully and conscientiously, as always.

In some of my earlier posts I mentioned that I want to make SteemWorld open source in future and over the time I have been more and more preparing for this. Publishing the code always comes with a few things to think about, not only the security aspect.

So, I am still preparing for that and maybe I should make a public announcement to make clear that SteemWorld will not go away and that I will eventually publish the code when the time has come.

---

What I forgot to say:

As the planned SDS will be open source anyway and I will use it to power the SteemWorld back-end (includes incoming delegations, delegation history, follower history, transfer search, mentions, resteems, witnesses lost blocks percentage, Steem request caching and all what is about to come within the next year), most of the back-end part will be done with that and I then only need to publish the code of the front-end.
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@roleerob ·
$0.12
Okay, thank you @steemchiller!  Wanting to protect your valuable time, I had just written that I would happily accept your response above to serve as a response to me.

Also, I will take responsibility for not clearly understanding what you had already written before about making SteemWorld open source in the future and using a downloaded local copy of SteemWorld, if any concerns were there about it not being available in the future.  Had I done so, I would not have written what I did.  Sorry about that!  I'll try to do better in the future ...

We greatly appreciate all that you do for your fellow Steemians @steemchiller and hope your proposal for the requested (and very reasonable to me ...) support is approved by sufficient numbers of us to "win the day!"  &#128522; &#128077;
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@bleujay ·
$0.08
Greetings @steemchiller,

Thank you for all you do.....for many Steemworld is essential to using Steemit.

Truly simple is best.....please do not make it too complicated.

Please do not decline payout...if you get funding.....in fact bleujay was going to propose you present two posts for every one post....one in the German language and one in English......lets make that French as well.  ^__^

Wishing you all the best in your endeavours.

Cheers!
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@silversaver888 ·
Thanks for the update... and everything that you d, @steemchiller!
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@artemislives ·
$0.07
Voted for your proposal in the affirmative, and enjoyed giving you the 100% upvote just now.  Wishing you ease and relief from financial stress so you can focus on what really matters - improving steem for everyone.  Much gratitude from Thailand.
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@freddio ·
$0.08
really nice. I will vote for you
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@steemchiller ·
$0.29
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@barmbo ·
!BEER
👍  
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@beerlover ·
<div class='pull-right'>https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmXK1U89BrMJHwgv6BysSpYswN7NA39URStPi65azu3PJo/Sich%20f%C3%BCllendes%20Bierglas.gif<p><sup>View or trade <code>BEER</code> at <a href='https://steem-engine.com/?p=market&t=BEER'>steem-engine</a>.</sup></p></div><center><br><br> <p> Hey @steemchiller, here is a bit <code>BEER</code> for you. Enjoy it!</p> </center>
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@funnyman ·
I am a front-end developer, Let me know if I can be of some help :)
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@amico ·
Upvoted, resteemed and supported with love!

A huge hug! 

!giphy awesome+proposal
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👍  ,
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@slingshot · (edited)
$0.10
Always a fan of the work you do. Keep it rolling @steemchiller
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@jacuzzi ·
# 100% support this project! 
This should be rolled into the official steem platform. 
Not too much else to say about this...  YES!
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@melinda010100 ·
I support this request 100%
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@flaxz ·
I love Steemworld and I use it every day, so this proposal has my vote, keep up your great work and stay awesome.
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@fredrikaa ·
Downvote removed due to high engagement to the post. While I'm yet to use steemworld, and found the content of the post itself overvalued, it's clear that it adds something to the many Steemians who have commented here, and that the resulting discussions have been very positive.
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@steemchiller ·
$0.29
Thanks for your response, appreciate it.
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@dswigle ·
I can't imagine the platform without a Steemworld. It is obviously used by others and quoted throughout every day. 

Upped and Steemed and off to read the proposal. Have a great day!

!tip.30
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@connecteconomy ·
I just voted. 

I hope people don't look at this proposal only for the work you're planning to do, but also as a reimbursement for all the work you have already done.
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@oluwatobiloba ·
I support your project because it is a brilliant idea.
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@flemingfarm ·
$0.09
The blatant ignorance of some people regarding this issue is astounding. The Steemworld site is used by MANY people and is an invaluable tool and the amount of time and effort that @steemchiller has put into making this beyond useful should absolutely be funded. I have yelled about this for over a year.  
<h1>PAY THE MAN!!!!!</h1>
The fact that NO other person has created ANYTHING close to Steemworld should be proof in itself that he deserves funding, especially considering the distinct lack of support from Steemit Inc. 

Look around at all the bullshit projects that keep popping up, adding little real use just another front end or some game, yet get constant funding from various sources. Why has Steemworld been forgotten about? @steemchiller has been very reserved in asking for funding over the years and now when he does ask, some people suddenly freak the fuck out. 

I find Steemworld so useful that I have @steemchiller on 100% autovote and have transferred steem to him at various times to show I value the service he has created. It may not be much but it is what I can do.
👍  ,
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@samic ·
With pleasure, vote done!
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@georgeboya ·
Happily voted:) @steemchiller your are the backbone of our community:)
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@monkeyjump ·
I think this project deserves the most active support.
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@jznsamuel ·
steemworld is my go to steem tool, and it's great what you do. happy to support!
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@timesoffitness ·
Hello Dear, @steemchiller
I think you deserve this support and the amount you are asking for is completely reasonable given how great your site is. I hope it is funded soon.

Follow Me Please @timesoffitness
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@wakeupkitty ·
$0.08
You have my vote twice (both accounts). I hope it helps you if more is needed please let me know.

I cannot use Steemeorld it is too heavy to run on my mobile and with my connection. Same with most apps they simply do not work exception is @partiko.

I hope you will have a solution for all those mobile users too. I will write a bit to ask to help you.

I wish you a great day and future with 💕

Posted using [Partiko Android](https://partiko.app/referral/wakeupkitty)
👍  
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@pixelfan ·
$0.08
Of course you have my vote... I can not even imagine a world without this tool...
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@sifondeseltz ·
your work is fantastic, I apreciate a lot what you do 
voted
!COFFEEA
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@ash ·
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steemworld is awesome, supporting!
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@brittandjosie ·
And offcourse i Will support that
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@joanstewart ·
Appreciate time and effort put into this project @steemchiller have voted.
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@zord189 ·
$0.08
Thank you for all the hardwork over the years making Steem accessible from all angles! I've given you a vote for your proposal, you deserve it!
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@mima2606 ·
### Du hast ein 100 % Upvote von unserem Kuration – Support Account erhalten. 
### Dieser  wird nicht von einem Bot erteilt. Wir lesen die  Beiträge. (#deutsch) und dann entscheidet der Kurator eigenverantwortlich  ob und in welcher Stärke gevotet wird. Unser Upvote zieht ein Curation Trail von vielen Followern hinter sich her!!! 
### Wir, die Mitglieder des German Steem Bootcamps möchten "DIE DEUTSCHE COMMUNITY" stärken und laden Dich ein Mitglied zu werden.

## Discord Server an https://discord.gg/Uee9wDB

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@freewritehouse ·
You got our full support!
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@brimanz ·
Excelente información para todos aquellos que desconocen el funcionamiento de la plataforma. El mayor de los éxitos en tus próximas publicaciones.
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@hasenmann ·
Upvoted and resteemed
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@lion200 ·
Hey man, I fully support your work as I visit steemworld on a daily base. Having that said, I also agree with the people who advice to break it down into smaller proposals. As you already have broken down the functionalities you want to implement, it would be better to make proposals for sets of functionalities, rather than 1 big proposal. 

Still, I support your work and hope you keep doing this as long as you can ;) 

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@fredkese ·
Thanks for your good work for steem

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@shaidon ·
I wish you the best of luck with this proposal. My favourite front end was Steem Dash, a way of looking at our wallets that updated in realtime. It didn't survive the hardfork because it was on the Steembottracker server.

Steemworld is now my go to place for doing that. My upvote isn't worth much but I do what I can.
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@mundharmonika ·
$0.08
Super Sache, und es geht ja recht zügig voran mit den Votes, auch wenn es seit gestern abend etwas zurück ging! Die Daumen sind gedrückt!

Ich wollte schon eine Weile einen Fehler melden: Ich habe in den Settings Steempeak ausgewählt, aber das wird entweder nicht im Link gespeichert oder von dort nicht eingelesen! Und es hat sich verändert: Erst war Steeve drin und wurde auch aufgerufen und jetzt ist gar nichts mehr in der Anzeige und Steemit wird aufgerufen.
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@steemchiller ·
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@jekhy ·
Proposal: SteemWorld Support
Thanks for the post[.](https://koreanfoodie.me/27)
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@jekhy ·
Proposal: SteemWorld Support
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@transisto ·
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@steemchiller ·
$0.62
Thanks man! Should work now ;)
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@nuancedthought ·
#### So... since you're basically now getting fully funded by the Steem community why not just open source it all? 
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@steemchiller ·
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As I wrote in my post, SteemWorld will be open source in a few months. I am already cleaning and preparing my codebase for that. It's not just a few thousand lines of code and it involves the back and frontend, so I need a bit more time to finish the process, but you won't be disappointed, that's for sure.

There are good times ahead ;)
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