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This article is part of the [DeepDives challenge](https://staging.busy.org/deepdives/@v4vapid/deep-dives-research-or-an-introduction). If you like to read DeepDives articles then also consider to join the challenge and write about the things you would want to read more about.
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disclaimer:
I'm not on any political side. People who lie for a living to swindle tax money into their pockets should not be running any country. However, if there are politicians who actually tell the truth then I give them a chance.
When there is an election then I go and when there is no-one that available that I can support then I make the ballot invalid by 'voting' on a couple of insignificant options.
This way my attendance counts at the turn up of the election yet the vote itself does not count. This way, if enough people would do the same, then there eventually would be a great signal of all the people who don't agree with any of the options. In contrast to not voting, that the system itself sees as 'people who agree with whatever the outcome is'.
I'm told, that making a drawing on the ballot also renders it invalid, so if you are in a creative mood then you have a nice canvas to work with.
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# Was the Pim Fortuyn assassination intervention, or a even a coup?
Another look at the link between Lockheet Martin and the murder of Dutch Politician Pim Fortuyn.
This all very much looks and sounds like a conspiracy theory.
Fortuyn was a very controversial openly gay politician who was likely to become Prime Minister at the time being. It was just a matter of waiting for the elections to come trough.
* He had a very strong opinion against Islam.
* He also had ideas to reduce army forces by combining Land, Air and Sea force into one force that covers them all.
* Fortuyn at the time was very outspoken against Dutch government about buying very expensive Joint Strike Fighters and it even started to look like he managed to put a an actual stop to the deal that was on the table.
His personality provided many angles so there were many options to spin this story and present it to the people. And every radio, TV show and written media were happy to spend time on all those options.
The full term of the days running up to the elections the spotlight was on Fortuyn. He enjoyed the attention and the Media extracted every minute of it. He literally seemed to be made into a Prime Minister as everything that was an option against him was turned into a little circus and turned around into a something positive. Not sure if this was just charisma, of if it had active help from the media. It all worked like clockwork and it all started to look like he would become Prime Minister
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## The day of the assassination
May 6 2002, Fortuyn was assassinated on the parking lot outside the Dutch national radio station by Animal and Environment activist Volkert van der Graaf.
That activism background is was a focus point of Dutch media at the time, as reason for the murder on Fortuyn.
Looking back at the events of that day that stand out:
* Suspect was arrested within 6 minutes after the murder, - * even police with dogs where at the arrest.
* 22 ME Policemen who just happened to be at the scene right that day.
* Math Herben was NOT with Fortuyn at the day of the murder whilst he otherwise was always joining him.
* The ambulance to rescue Fortuyn was not able to reach the wounded Fortuyn, gates of the parking where not opened, even though the main suspect was already arrested and being transported to the police station.
Prior to the assassination Fortuyn requested protection, but that was turned down by the BVD (Binnenlandse Veiligheids Dienst) - Dutch National Security, now after reorganization named AIVD). This is another interesting subject, since this reorganization Dutch intelligence is even more locked in to the global surveillance network. And many laws changed all to pave the way for dragnet surveillance.
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## The JFS-Lobby 2 days prior to the assassination.
[American Ambassador Sobel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clifford_Sobel) visits Pim Fortuyn, Mat Herben and a couple of Air force officers at 4 May 4 2002.
And May 6 Fortuyn makes a complete turn regarding the JSF. It sounds like it was explained to him that the deal was done long before and that there was no way out.
The words of Pim Fortuyn in that radio interview where "It will always be the JSF but it makes a difference if you take part in the development of the whole or if you say we buy it from stock, thats also an option". (word for word translation)
This sounds like citing a sales pitch of a deal that was already in the pocket.
To some people this raises the question, if this was merely a choice he made to get elected, or if there was a bigger thread and he made this radical turn as an attempt to survive.
Mat Herben, spokes man of Pim Fortuyn, was from 1990 to 2002 a public relations official, chief editor of diverse magazines and worked again at the Dutch Ministry of Defence.
Mat Herben's wanted to become an traffic controller for the Royal Netherlands Air Force but because his mother was from Poland he was rejected because the possibility of being blackmailed because of that. Yet he was able to become the leader of a political party right after the assassination of the former leader of that party. And this works brilliant as another distraction
He made 3 remarkable publications:
- "De Luchtstrijdkrachten van het Warschaupact en neutraal Europa" (1982)
- "Vijftig jaar vrijmetselarij"
- "Vrij Denken – over religie, politiek en vrijmetselarij" (2005)
This translates to:
- "The airforces of the Warschaupact and neutral Europe"
- "Fifty years freemasonry"
- "Free Thinking – about religion, politics and freemasonry"
Mat Herben always was pro-JFS right from the start.
After the assassination of Fortuyn Mat Herben became the leader of the LPF party that Pim Fortuyn founded. And Herben finally approved to make the deal with Lockheet Martin, and order the Joint Strike Fighters.
The radio interview (Dutch Interview)
The Last Radio Interview with Pim Fortuyn.
Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGf27DEXUDQ
Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0RhKt6CBvY
At the start of part 2 where a discussion about language and translation rolls into the song title Libera l'anima from Jovanotti and is on purpose wrongly translated as "Freedom for all animals" And this is a bit creepy as the assassinator was a animal rights activist. And the correct translation, "Free the soul" makes it even more creepy in this case.
Questions that are still unanswered:
Remarkable is that the shot that hit Fortuyn's head did less damage then what would be expected by a shot at such a close range. Add to that that witnesses saw someone at the roof of a building nearby, and there was bullet sleeve found quiet far away from the scene.
Have a look at the Interview on Dutch TV with Lange Frans (a well known Dutch Hip-hop artists) who reminds people about this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu2xw79It2s
And with the question, why is Volkert van der Graaf ordered to stay silent to the media? And in this interview there is a reference to two people who left the scene of the crime and where taken a way from the scene at high speed and that it is documented that these people have left the country.
Van der Graaf was released on parole in 2014. The media functions as a device to make clear to stay silent. Sure he shot someone and confessed to be the shooter. But who where those other people who have been taken away from the scene. Why was there not more information released about the bullet that hit Fortuyn in the head and the bullet sleeve that was found at a much larger distance form the position then where the shots where fired?
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### Crime scene reconstruction.
Reconstruction of the remarkable 6 minutes arrest of the biggest event the country has seen in years. Add to this that the Ambulance arrived at a closed gate while the police was already on the way to the police station with the main suspect in captivity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbE-f10b__I
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Mat Herben interview 2006.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WU_uq2hgv0
Remarkable is that Herben already knew that the future would give us the Liberal politics that we have right now. And that for whatever reason there was not a single question about Lockheet / JSF, while Herben is known to be passionate about . This would be one hell of a topic in an interview that touches on personality.
Wikileaks:
The search phrase "Joint Strike Fighter Herben" has only one hit at the moment of this writing.
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/06THEHAGUE1787_a.html
For an airplane that cost 40-50 million dollars the wordings in the document are extremely careful.
quote
> He argued that a facility focused on just engine maintenance and sustainment might mean an additional 300 new jobs for the Netherlands, and therefore not worth continued Dutch participation in the program. However, if the facility were to involve development and production of the second back-up engine, then this might mean an additional 1,500-2,000 jobs
This might mean, come on, when you spend 40, or probably 50 million dollars (give or take 10 million, are you kidding me?) then you will want to know more than what it might mean. Then you want to have at least a minimal number of guaranteed jobs. Not a ballpark figure.
On top of that the maintenance cost of the JFS is THAT high that it looks like The Netherlands are paying those jobs them selves as maintenance costs.
[Interview with Hans Smolders](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esV-uFh6BoQ) (the driver of Pim Fortuyn)
Remarkable is that he names politics a 'maffia-like structure'
Documentarie:
[BNN - Moordcomplot op Pim Fortuyn](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk4duwh-wNQ) This documentary basically describes most of the story and hi-lights all the odities. Yet it never mentions Interventionism or coup.
Film:
[06/05 - (Theo van Gogh)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/06/05)
>The film is a fictional version of the events that led to the assassination of the Dutch politician Pim Fortuyn on 6 May 2002.[1] The lines between reality and fiction are blurred in 06/05. It is the last film of Theo van Gogh, who was himself assassinated in 2004.
Unfortunately this film is not available on YouTube. As Van Gogh was one of the people who was often in touch with Fortuyn he had different insights then most others. And well, he also got assassinated.
Conclusion:
With so many controversial views Fortuyn was an easy target to use as decoy for something much bigger. The facts all scream LOCKHEET, but to proof this is not at all easy. Specially when the Animal and environment activist claims tho have ethnic reasons. Something that does not make sense. But plays right in the hands of the terrorism agenda that needs media coverage that demonizes muslims and a means to sell weapons.
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Now my question to the Deepdives readers is:
What is your opinion?
I'm slightly biased myself as to me ot looks like more then Interventionism to get a Lockheet deal settled.
I really wonder how people who have their own insights into Intervention.
For instance, when is something a soft-coup?
Basically the man who was to become Prime Minister got assassinated, and his spokesman then took his seat. And Lockheet managed to make a deal for much more then the actual value of the JFS, as it has many flaws, and is very expensive in maintenance. Plus all the expensive people who do the maintenance.
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Sources:
Most sources are in Dutch so I hope the YouTube subtitles at least help a little
[Interview Van Gogh, bescherming Pim](https://youtu.be/MxqAEMdVQeQ?t=446) [Theo van Gogh](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theo_van_Gogh_%28film_director%29) Later was also brutally murdered
[Mat Herben interview 2006](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WU_uq2hgv0)
[Day of the funeral](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaXCSvb-CA4)The minister of Security and Justice Ivo Opstelten later pushed for dragnet surveillance.
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