RE: Steemchiller goes witness! Let's make Steem safe again ;) by steemchiller

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witness-category · @steemchiller · Mar 25 '20

$0.25

That sounds like you defend the governors ability to freeze accounts via a softfork. Of course, the top witnesses can try to attack a stakeholder personally, but they won't be successful in the end, because the world watches and trust will be lost immediately. The people trust in blockchains, because they know that their data/coins are secure.

There might exist blockchain projects where such things are being seen as 'normal' by the majority, but I don't believe that they will make it far in this world.

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@moeknows · Mar 25 '20

@steemchiller when you say that you would never support any fork to freeze funds, would that include the people who are choosing to exit Steem?

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@steemchiller · Mar 26 '20 (edited)

$0.21

Yes, that includes everyone and I'm pretty sure that also Justin would never ever fork out their funds. People need to see the big picture. No big investor would buy a company and attack its leaving customers, because it would damage one's own reputation massively.

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@moeknows · Mar 25 '20

$0.22

Thanks @steemchiller. Based on his past interactions and current activities, I don't think he is too concerned with his reputation, but I'm glad that you are willing to stand by your convictions even if they go against the central authority. That's what the blockchain needs to survive. Hopefully, you will be able to bring some fairness to this chain. I'll be wishing you success.

👍 overkillcoin, mundharmonika, pangoli

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1 reply

@carn · Mar 26 '20

Downvoting with a $300 vote isn't attacking?

Censoring isn't attacking?

Calling an experienced dev a hacker isn't attacking?

I hope you're not expecting Sun to find where the witnesses live and physically attack them before you say that he "attacked" them

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@moeknows · May 20 '20 (edited)

Shame on you @steemchiller for taking part in this HF. Hopefully the funds go to where they belong and everybody can now be happy. Stay true to yourself. Wishing you luck in the future.

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@bromius · Mar 26 '20

I think the answer to all the so called censorship in steemit is simply having an independent and nice interface. The use of the stake mostly in the whale accounts is more difficult to oppose if they decide on their own circle-jerking interests.

👍 akiroq

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@carn · Mar 26 '20

SteemPeak.com has been around forever and lets you view the Steem chain uncensored. Justin Sun also took away their funding, so they may have to shut down soon.

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@bromius · Mar 26 '20

Maybe JS was mad because they freezzz his funds! :)
So let's bring a new one!

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@bromius · Mar 26 '20

By the way JS stake in hive is now in the hands of yuor witnesses to use in their autovoted proposals, supported by their whale friends. If you don't like, your vote remains with them for 30 days.

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6 replies

@bromius · Mar 26 '20

$0.03

Also I've shared some ideas with Glory7, maybe you find them useful.

>Maybe you have heard good words from many members of the Steem community, but certainly you have received lots of bad faith just for trying to do what you see fair!! I've been watching in recent days the great results that the proxy.token could make in the past conflict, I think it was a great idea to have that power for the little accounts to influence decisions through it. I know the critical times in which it was implemented don't let us see the great tool that this kind of project could represent. Of course many things need to be improved in the DPOS of Steem as the number of votes and/or decay. Needless to say this should be implemented, but combined with a proxy community vote in which one or various tokens each one having certain rules of participation, education in the vote and of course the posibility to activate, deactivate or leave the proxy if it is not acting accordingly could maybe result in a good instrument for the greater community in Steem.<br><br>
About your second point is really sad, but we can have the security also that all the spam, angry comments, milking the votes, autovoting and shitposting are the true colors of some of them, others just follow. All the things that most of these people were preaching for three years was just hipocrisy and now greed is open to see. Of course they think they're hurting Justin Sun, nothing more far from reality. Happily all of this is registered in the blockchain!<br><br>
Will be 13 hard weeks, steem didn't die when price was 0.10, it was 0.13 before Ned sold steemit, now it's 0.17 All is a game, only which is inside of us is the true value, everyone should know that!!<br><br>
Much respect!!

**Evoé!!**

👍 devsup

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@carn · Mar 26 '20

"The world watches and trust will be lost immediately."

You've just described why Sun messed up and hive will succeed

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@arcange · May 18 '20 (edited)

$0.17

JOIN THE REVOLUTION

![](https://i.imgur.com/1IisxxB.png)

👍 arcange, raphaelle

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@steemchiller · Mar 26 '20 (edited)

$0.17

Why are you constantly upvoting your own comments?

As I said, the world watched how Steem's old top witnesses were willing to freeze a new investor's stake, because it was big enough to be able to put their own witness position in danger. I'm aware of the fact that attacks can happen and witnesses must react accordingly, but in this case it was no attack and there is no proof of him wanting to change Steem's consensus structure.

All the bad things that followed and brought us to a centralized-appearing chain are reactions to the one big failure of the witnesses. The good thing is that we can all learn from that and we now have a good reason to work on an improved DPoS system.

👍 chriddi, gerdtrudroepke, nokodemion, urdreamscometrue, andrepol, ankarlie, holycow2019, i-c-e

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