So why is aggroed BASICALLY "forcing me" to pay to use my own token on HIVE . WTF? WHy are we being asked to pay a second time for the same product? price Gouging during a pandemic psh, im upset with the way things turned out. by ackza

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· @ackza · (edited)
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So why is aggroed BASICALLY "forcing me" to pay to use my own token on HIVE . WTF? WHy are we being asked to pay a second time for the same product? price Gouging during a pandemic psh, im upset with the way things turned out.
So my SAND triobe is now broken because aggroed has decided to extort all tribe owners for more money out of irrational greed.  man i paid so much for these ENg and those ENg have crashes in price and they just move to a new side chain? it feels bad man

they could have at least offered to bring over everyone and give them staking and nitrous and scot because to ask us to do it all over again, its fucked. we cant be paying for ENG 2 on hive engine, fuck you, there's a global pandemic event and you are trying to get us ready to pay for all or tribes over again?

no thats wrong, we have big problems to worry about and to try to fleece us during  pandemic is wrong 

All my users are unable to actually earn Steem SAND, he tried to bribe me 5000 ENG to stay quiet, but hes trying to make me pay for 4 tribes all over again

Now all my users are unable to earn SAND? I dont know because now its all become unclear WHAT the hell is going on , except that theyre asking us to pay more money to keep the services running correctly


WHY SHOULD WE TRUST HIVE if STEEM was able to be TAKEN OVER so quickly? Hive is just the SAME exact system no improvements except forking out large stake holders lol. Its NOT private property if its public and no one really owns it and its all virtual.  So you can argue that they really did remove someones private property, and hive could be shut  down in some justin sun controlled nations who knows. Why are we acting like this is anything more than neofuedalism?

At least I know im a serf slave in a neofuedal system and at least I am making an effort to have my own fiefdom.  

if steem can have people just stop us from powering down , whats to stop them from removing our steem engine tokjens too?

THE RIGHT THING TO DO would be to FORK hive engine from steemengine and ALL of the tokens, thus, PROTECTING them.   Instead he wants us to fucking duplicate our max supplies

WHY WOULD I DUPLICATE my max supply? 
Im working on a replacement using only telos

And now my tribe is effectively too complicated to handle now that we cant even decide if i should use STEEM or HIVE for sand but , if you use hive i will have to PAY? But steem has 75% uptime according to aggroed now, even if i8ts been fixed recently and that was an exaggeration, the POINT wa seven HE admitted steem is so fucked, and it was sold as future proof

now instead of doing the right thing hes trying to make sure hes protected when he tries to scam us all making us pay for everything ALL over again on the SAME network.... steem and hive should share one side chain instead hes trying to redo everything all over again and make us pay for it. fuck that

we have been through enough

we will form a Union a Labor Union if you dont stop the price gouging during this pandemiuc

We can report people for price gouging during a-pandemic.
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@sn0n ·
Yea I'm not happy with what steem-engine is doing, they sold us a dex that was future proof, but definitely isn't. It's a sidechainn theyy said,... Now they want to say it's not exactly a sidechain, but tied to steem. Bullshit. Add a hive pair, rename to dEngine and move on with life, supporting Amy coin the dex wants to add. Since that what it was sold to us as. 
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@ackza · (edited)
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Yeah he really shouldnt leave old tenets in a building that is now run by a slum lord. He should take all his customers to his NEW building since they already paid for their flats, or the farm analogy works too.... he acts like hes the mayor, but would a mayor leave and not create a space for his people on the new chain?

to ask us to pay for all our own tokens again, instead of just saving  what we built, proves the whole thing was garbage.  Future proof.... thank you for that word

Im just loving the way these people are showing their true colors

They seriously think they can just make this hive shit happen and screw over everyone stuck on steem? These people told us all to buy ENG and buy Steempower, and then they abandon it because it has a new owner who isnt a cuck like ned.  Steem witnesses are upset that they were out voted. And they expected us to just get up and move our whole lives because THEY fucked up.

What Justin Sun did is not the point... i could easily argue steemit inc is just as bad if not worse before justin sun.  Steem witnesses were always just ASSIGNED not voted in...and they area group of spoiled over privileged americans and europeans who got upset when their toy was taken away. If those witnesses couldnt be witnesses they would rather salt the earth behind them and sabotage steem.  

Steem never had a plan or a leader because those who owned the most steem refused to take their jobs as BITCOIN DISTRIBUTION seriously  

STEEMIT WAS SUPPOSED to be about DISTRIBUTING BTC and it WAS in 2016 and 2017 it was a GREAt machine for promoting BTC but now its forever linked to TRX .... its like the diet pepsi of crypto ... 



Yeah I created and paid for 4 Steem Engine Tribes with everything up to delegation and staking pools, and i paid for ENg at the high range,m spending thousands of dollars, which is fine that ENG is lower... but dont rub the wound in salt , price gouging us

aggroed ois price gouging during a pandemic and its disgusting


\But i do want to apologize to @eonwarped who i lashed out at in the pulse discord chat, its not his fault .  

but everyone (or rather instructor of all people ) was making me so pissed saying shit like "Youre on the wrong chain" ... got me so pissed...  and left me no choice but to drag in someone else innocent under this BUS.... so i could show everyone what was going on, because aggroed is just making up reality as he goes along

hes just on the fly making shit up to stay out of legal trouble now and its so fucking lame, hes just dancing instead of building 

Im pretty confident i can organize the people and money and MORE mentally stable Managers, better than me, who can manage this whole mess better that aggroed. I know i have to stay friendly with @eonwarped so i can ask for his help and offer him more money when the time comes.      My CITy is about to PRINT MONEY BRRRRR publicfundsd and tHAT MEANS that we MAY get a chance to create our own steem fork for the city and its residents and that means we need 3 million accounts off the bat, and we CANNOt ask citizens to PAy hahaha i hope now it becomes CLEAR why TELOS is so necessary with its 2 million free account pool, and if I got the city to officially use telos i could totally get 3 million more accounts from the Telos Worker Proposal system.  I would laos be able to pay 3 million telos only $90,000 to grab 1 telos for every city resident to stake in T REX as a long term experimental savings plan. I want to get 1 steem for every San Diego City or County resident, 1 Telos, and the gola is 1 BTC for 1 million residents costing 6 to 10 billion dollars. Actually it may be more or it may be less, but we would have to quietly make the purchases, or risk causing a massive bull run.  Imagine hearing that a CITy is going to establish solar farms to MINE BTC to hold long term for its own citizens and local infrastructure.  

I MAY get a chance to help my city purchase Steemit Inc or, simply fork it.  

If @ned only got $300 k or $800k to  Sell STEEMIT INC hahaha well, thats so pathetic that it makes me wonder, did he use trx based USDT fake dollars to complete the transaction or what? haha did they just RADE one shitcoion for another? Imagine the look of disappointment on BOTH of their faces when they meetup to realize that theyre just trading worthless shitcoins lol 

THIS ENTIRE GAME is about WHo can Trick others into holding something that says iuts worth US dollars on a screen hahahaha

BTC has become a better currency symbol than USD and that makes people angry but they cant do shit about it

make BTC illegal and it becomes more powerful than you could EVER imagine... so instead we will use cryptocurrency FOR the government

This comes just in time for covid19 an eosio identity system 

https://www.eosgo.io/news/did-system-based-on-eosio-launched-in-south-korea

But I am looking far past the covid19 scare and into a world where we have long term 20 year plans for residents who go to school here, making SPACES for students to get jobs, to influence for their town, to advertise all the hotels and amusement parks and local science, Zoological research , and surf lifestyle .... when San Diego Re Opens we will need a lot of advertising and tourism promotion to JUMP START the city


And we need to help the City mayors plan to create San Diego  into a SMART city
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@sn0n ·
Agreed. Also this whole paid accounts thing is indeed really stinky, account creation should be free. There is NO reason we can suck up mass amounts of bandwidth and disk space (and image hosting) for FREE, but an account, isn't. Makes zero logical sense. We need more users, not to put off users by charging a premium for a freemium service. I've thought a bit about doing what the others are doing, and pulling a JSun of my own and going the whaleshares / golos route and just starting an entirely new chain based on steem/hive and the like.... Moving all posts to IPFS (even the text.md posts themselves).. and seeing how it goes, if I ever do put more thought into the project, which as I'm typing this out now has me thinking, I probably wouldn't even use steem tech. I'd likely go with a simpler chain with network load balancing across nodes built in. I do have a lot of words to say on the matter, but ain't noone listening,... They are too busy doing their own money grabs. Where I feel all this should be free.... As the open source world intended. No Fiat gateways, community and communication focused, self-contained ecosystem. 
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@coininstant · (edited)
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Dude it is a scam, I don't even know if steem-engine tokens are even worth anything any more? What do they do? They really messes everything up with creating that hive! They didn't even give me hive tokens! I hate them all! It's centralized engine, so learn your lesson, never trust centralization!
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