RE: Join me in flagging all *-trail accounts run by @instructor2121 and his scheme team! by ats-david

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· @ats-david · (edited)
$26.83
>Would the same funds not be better going to actual authors.

That's what I thought the idea was - to create trails that vote on the authors of the posts that deserve the votes based on the quality of their content. These trails appear to be sharing other people's work, then upvoting their own trail accounts...not the authors. Some have even complained about the trail accounts posting some of their work without permission, then benefiting greatly from it.

But the sheer volume of trails and the rewards that they're getting - often without many views or interaction - is a little absurd.
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@ocrdu ·
$0.95
Oh look, trails-trail is still free. Hm.
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@ats-david ·
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Create it now, before it's too late! Maybe they'll accidentally vote on it and you can be part of the voting scheme...all the way to the crypto bank!
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@anotherjoe ·
Really? I'm saddened to see your response to this stuff.
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@ocrdu ·
Or I could just do The Daily Trail Selection and Steem Trail News. I like to out-meta people.
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@felixxx ·
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I was going to create shitpost-trail ...
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@freebornangel ·
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Be sure to include me on that,....
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@jamtaylor ·
Now you're talkin'!
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@trismegistuz ·
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Hey, I want to be civil here so please no flagging, but that isn't the "model" of the trails. The trails do 'vote on authors of posts that deserve the votes based on the quality of their content', we upvote and support the authors whos content is featured and the rewards that go to the trails help them grow so their support to the minnows it worth more down the line. If the trails never grew, it would be impossible for them to offer any impactful support. <p> Even if the views are low on a particular post, does it not balance out when the trail hosts can now have a 1$ upvote for minnows and offer contests or challenges?
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@ats-david ·
$0.47
>...we upvote and support the authors whos content is featured...

At what percentage? How much of your trail's influence is actually allocated to the users you upvote compared to your own -trail account?
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@trismegistuz ·
For the trail I manage, 100%. I don't know what you mean upvoting my own account. When I log onto my trail I go to my tag, I go to new, and I start upvoting and resteeming articles that have good work and no plagiarism. I retain 100% of my vote power and usually start with NEW articles. <p> I understand your concerns, but for my trail (science-trail) all of my influence is allocated to the users who I upvote, and I don't feel as if I have don't anything other than try to offer support to the little guy. Even the first post I made powered up so that it would generate the most steem power out the gate, to help people down the road. <p> I didn't even get any payout on the 607 dollar post I created from scratch (nobody elses content), and the payout I would have gotten from the recent 350$ post, which I planned to reinvest to help grow myself as a reward for my community engagement has been diminished 150$ because of this attack. My trail isn't very old mind you, but I feel this is an adequate and fair course of action which has been unjustly harased.
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@mobydick · (edited)
$5.20
you guys are making your own posts with other peoples content and raking in HUNDREDS of dollars when the original posts are barely making double-digit figures. 
I find this questionable behavior at best. 
A percentage of the posts earnings at the very least should be shared among the creators whos content you made that money from. There is no excuse for this.
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@surpassinggoogle · (edited)
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Does this mean you have talked to all the people featured to find out if they didn't have permission? A steemian will learn facts well before hurriedly concluding!
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@manycoolthings ·
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No it doesn't 'balance out' you just need to take a look at the figures being moved out into exchanges  from @trails  and the figures being transferred into the acc from all the other  -trail accounts to see something unfair is happening on a huge scale. You can see that the actual creators/authors are not getting anything like like figures, total bs about being for the community, they are for themselves otherwise why not split the rewards more fairly?
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@instructor2121 ·
When the community speaks and want to grow something...support happens. and this is what you are seeing. its a great thing!
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@mobydick ·
$4.39
your not answering important questions
please pay attention
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@berniesanders ·
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# Why don't you actually answer the questions that are being asked @instructor2121?  You're doing nothing but beating around the bush because you know all of these funds are going straight to your wallet and nowhere else.
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@eirik · (edited)
$19.68
Even in chainbb you have the *Post Rewards Beneficiaries system*. 

Authors that are in the *featured posts* made by those trails could be added to the system and it would give them the percentage they deserve. That is not that hard to do.

Maybe steemit could have something like that too.
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@ats-david ·
That can be done. It's not exclusive to chainbb. *Why* it's not being done seems to be a mystery.
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@logic ·
Whales  should flag them to annihilation :-)
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@allmonitors ·
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@ats-david you have been consistently upvoting most of my photography posts, I thank you for that kind sir, and some of those get featured in the photo-trail, where the total photos of other authors combined, get $300 plus which is good for them but I guess not good for us authors. During the last few days I was then approached by photo-trail if I would want my photo included in their post or just the link..So my answer, was the best way possible that I can reach a wider audience..which is including my photo..I didn't know this until now, it just saddens me because I have to go out in the middle of the hot sun and shoot. I need to bring extra clothes because the sun makes me perspire like I went to the shower.. My point is the original authors should also get the same treatment or attention when our work is shared to another post.
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