RE: Does Ethics Have A Place In Physics? by builderofcastles

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· @builderofcastles ·
> That being the case, physics is very right in eliminating any subjective ethical concepts from science, since such ethics aren't governed by scientific principles of evidence.

Unfortunately, this leads to the disproof of science.
The observer is an integral part of the experiment.
And thus, the scientific method, as currently stated, breaks down.

Physics will have to learn to understand emotions if it is ever to learn anything real about the universe.
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@mindhunter ·
Thanks for passing by @builderofcastles! Excellent comment!!
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@ocrdu ·
> The observer is an integral part of the experiment.
And thus, the scientific method, as currently stated, breaks down.

Why? The scientific method, at least in the Popperian sense, works perfectly well when the observation itself is part of the experiment. This has nothing to do with the subjective ethical concepts of the observer.

In some cases, like quantum physics, the influence of an observation (not: the observer) on the measurement at hand was predicted by the very theory itself.
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@mindhunter ·
The second we start watching the quantum world it already knows that we are watching it ;)
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@builderofcastles ·
An observer cannot be separated from the observed.
In ways that the scientific community hasn't even broached yet.

Imagine if you will, that out computers do not work because of "the laws of physics" but because of training our subconscious to display information to us in this manner.

From inside the earth, no one can prove which case is true.  Does computers follow physics, or does computers follow consciousness?  Or, are all three interlinked in a way that can never actually be separated?

There are people on this planet who can't use computers.

Expectations, feelings, have a great degree of influence on the physical.
The physical is a subset of consciousness.
And so, to state we want a verifiable test is really an oxymoron.
What is reality is that we affect the very space around us, and the space around us affects us.
And thus, the scientific method breaks down.

(You can also look at the placebo affect)
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@ocrdu ·
Fascinating.
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