Learn Chinese With Cryptogee - Second Tone Words - 用Cryptogee学习中文 - 二度音词 by cryptogee

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Learn Chinese With Cryptogee - Second Tone Words - 用Cryptogee学习中文 - 二度音词
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On to my second tones now; I'm beginning to feel more confident, and yesterday I spoke a tiny bit of Chinese in a takeaway, and they understood me! I used what I have learned over the course of these videos and it has given me so much confidence.

I urge anyone thinking about taking up a language to just do so, it is so rewarding and the feeling you get when you are finally able to communicate with a native speaker is tremendous!

Anyway, hope you enjoy this one, and please feel free to correct any mistakes you hear me make.

https://youtu.be/WJFdGzwU-Bk

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@angelina6688 ·
good job.bro
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@cryptogee ·
Thank you :-)

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@wentong-syhhae ·
Your very first 明天 *míngtiān / mingtian* was OK, a clear 2nd tone followed by clear 1st tone. The next three times, you seemed to be pronouncing two 1st tones in sequence: {*mīngtiān / mhingtian*}, {*mīngtiān / mhingtian*}, “I'll tell you after”, {*mīngtiān / mhingtian*}. 

明年 {*míngnián / mingnian*} was OK, but the very next word was incomprehensible: pír##?, pír##? I thought about it for a minute or two and came up with a possible candidate. You were probably trying to say 啤酒 *píjiǔ / pyijeou* "beer", but a Chinese person would not recognize the word you said.

Hanyu Pinyin's spelling conventions are very different from most European languages. In French, “J” stands for a voiced sound /ʒ/, but Piyin's “J” stands for an unaspirated sound: /tɕ/ (“Q” stands for its aspirated version /tɕʰ/ ).

For the word 啤酒“beer” *píjiǔ / pyijeou*, Pinyin's JIU hides the main vowel in the second syllable (it should be spelled ji**O**u). Using IPA (the International Phonetic Alphabet), the second syllable can be written as

https://s17.postimg.org/d1qs5eaz3/jeou_IPA.png

The main vowel in 酒 is a 3rd tone /o/ (low-pitched, **looooong** and stretched out), and the superscripted /j/ and /ʊ/ are mere glides (similar to **y-** and **-w** in English. Pinyin's spelling creates the erroneous impression that 酒 *jiu* is pronounced as a combination of i and u. Gwoyeu tonal spelling always maintains the main vowel, so it will not cause such a mistake: *je**O**u*

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COMMENT: With Romance languages like Spanish and French, you can muddle through and achieve fluency of a sort within a few months: pidgin Spanish or pidgin French (but most French people will give you dirty looks every time you make a mistake). 

This is not the case with Mandarin Chinese. The sounds are so few, but so different to what English speakers are used to, that if you merely muddle through, you will not be understood. 

You will notice that I am using two spelling systems: Hanyu Pinyin (which was designed purely for the convenience of native speakers) and Gwoyeu Luomaatzyh (GR, designed 90 years ago by a linguistic genius to accommodate both Chinese and foreigners; this system is still used sporadically in Taiwan). 

If you want to learn Chinese well, I invite you to register for a free coupon for my online course: (Chinese Sounds, A Thinker's Intro)[https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc9sDMazcdrsD1ACzpdlx_lxj2HTUcP6PQg_eMGkX_gJd_Elg/viewform]
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@cryptogee ·
What awesome advice, and thank you for the link!

You are right I was trying to say *píjiǔ*, however when you spell the end like jeOu, it makes so much more sense.

Can I ask, does your course have video tuition? Because I would very much like to hear you speak, when you talk about aspirated and non aspirated, I think I get what you mean; however I need to hear examples so that I can attempt to copy them.

Thanks again for your comments; keep 'em coming! :-)

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@wentong-syhhae ·
Yes, Udemy only provides video courses. The problem is my perfectionist nature: the course is still in the planning stage. 

At 67 years old, I cannot possibly compete in the looks department: there are many lovely young ladies teaching Chinese. 

What I do bring to the table is over 40 years language teaching experience plus a background in Chinese linguistics: I know why things work the way they do, and I am adept at helping students find their way. 

Learning a language well (I don't believe in doing such things halfway) means first building a strong foundation: the sounds have to be mastered perfectly, and one of the best ways to do so is by doing plenty of dictation. 

I'll say more later: I've just woken up, the cats are restless and my stomach is growling.
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@mstpapi ·
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