<html> <p>I remember when my mother died, some years back, I went to a local park and spent several hours there. </p> <p>I sat on a bench and just looked around at world... and was struck by the fact that this HUGE event had just happened: <em>My Mother Died</em>. The only living direct relative of mine had passed away, and I was essentially alone in the world.</p> <p>I have no brothers and sisters, you see, and my parents are both dead. Although I am basically "<em>dad</em>" to three wonderful (now adult) children, they are not mine in the biological sense... they are ultimately my wife's, through her previous marriage.</p> <h2><em>Everyone Around You Will be DEAD in 100 Years</em></h2> <p> <div class="pull-right"> <p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/pva6CHm.jpg" alt="Snoqualmie" /><br /> <em>Near Snoqualmie Pass, WA</em></p> </div> </p> <p>I don't mean for this to sound like a downer post, but if you look around you where you are right now, odds are that <em>every single person can see</em> from wherever you are will be dead, 100 years from now. </p> <p>Anyway, I sat in that park and watched the world go about its business, and I realized that in spite of the fact that a monumental even was happening to <em>ME</em>, nobody <em>else</em> knew or cared.</p> <p>Thinking forward to today, that also made me realize that when I die, pretty much nobody will notice. When I die, the last person with a clear memory of my mother will be gone. Will anyone have a clear memory of me, after I die? After a year? Five years? Ten years?</p> <p>Then again, does it matter?</p> <p>Some people are more attached than others to leaving a "<em>legacy</em>" behind for others to remember them by. Me? Not so much. Although it does amuse me β <em>at least on some minimal level</em> β that these words we write here will supposedly be recorded on the blockchain forever.</p> <p>"Forever" is a <em>long</em> time, mind you.</p> <p>I don't know what people will remember. But then again, I never put much effort into doing anything worth "<em>being remembered FOR.</em>" </p> <h2><em>What Matters... and What Doesn't</em></h2> <p>The great thing about us humans is that we are really vastly different. </p> <p> <div class="pull-left"> <p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/qNqjVEl.jpg" alt="Bird" /><br /> <em>Bird taking a rest... on a bird</em></p> </div> </p> <p>There's a lot of jargon circulating about how we are "<em>all the same,</em>" but really? Such a range of <em>different</em> things matter to us. Including... death.</p> <p>I don't think much about death; it'll come soon enough, and I'm quite content with the idea of "<em>whatever happens</em>" coming as a surprise. And maybe that's why I'm really more concerned with what happens <em>while I am here</em> than after I am gone. </p> <p>That was one of the things my mother and I did not share: She pretty much started "<em>planning her death</em>" when she was in her 50's and then got to spend another 30 years "<em>putting her papers in order.</em>"</p> <p>It's funny, after 8 1/2 years, it's getting harder and harder to remember her. That's what the human mind <em>does</em>, over time. The daily stuff fades, and only a few highlights remain...</p> <p><em><strong>How about YOU? </strong></em>Do you ever wonder for how long you'll be remembered, after you die? Do you wonder IF you'll be remembered? And if so, what people will remember? Or are you more concerned with merely "being alive" in this moment? Do you feel it is important to "leave a legacy" for the future, or does it not matter much? <strong>Leave a comment-- share your experiences-- be part of the conversation!</strong></p> <p><center><img src="https://steemitimages.com/0x0/https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/382917260022382592/388985975487070218/STEEMIT-BLOGGERS-GIF.gif" /> Animated banner created by <a href="/@zord189">@zord189</a></center></p> <p><center><img src="https://steemitimages.com/DQmQ599LwdiqJJw5oko4MK4PHcPJCZkvk8ScrW9ojcJfGX9/APP.png"></center></p> <p><em>(As usual, all text and images by the author, unless otherwise credited. This is original content, created expressly for Steemit)<br> Created at 180227 23:17 PST</em></p> </html>
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When you die, it is normal that you'll be forgotten. What will live on is your legacy and the impacts you made on people's life. Let's strive to impart and make impact in people's life cause that's what matters most.
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Yes, I would say it's pretty normal to be forgotten, and fairly quickly. Perhaps the best approach is simply to strive to leave the world a better place for our having been here, regardless of whether it is noticed or not.
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Not even a blip on the radar that is the cosmos. It's what we make of it for ourselves that makes it worthwhile :)
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You raise some interesting points. Sorry to hear about your mum. I want to leave humanity better off for my having visited; but I don't care if my name is attached. Like the guy who came up with shower beers. Unnamed hero.
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My father in law died at age 105. He'd outlived two wives and several of his children and everyone he knew in his generation...
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My grandmother is 105 years now.
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The more we remember our ancestors the more power we gain from their memory. We should all take time whenever possible to reflect on our ancestors, and give them thanks for getting us to where we are today. They sacrificed more than we can imagine to bring us to this point, and they deserve to be honored.
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In principle, I would agree with that; honoring our ancestors is a "right thing" to do. But it also runs the risk of becoming a somewhat "generic" ritual unless we consciously examine what lessons we carry with us. It's a bit like church; we can be "good citizens" because we sit in church on Sundays... but unless we're actually absorbing and functionally applying the principles learned, what are we *really* doing?
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great point @mathiasian .. I do honor all that lived before me.
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I feel sorry for you @mathiasian that you feel you have to keep downvoting me for something I've done, cowardly, without telling me what it is that I've done to upset you. If I've written something so wrong, why don't you put in my place with an intellectual argument? You could even enlighten me. I'd be so grateful. You want to be remembered as a **bully-boy** & a **coward**, then? Do you have your own children who some day you'd like to remember you this way? (I assume your online persona reflects your offline one. I can't think of any reason why it wouldn't.) So, yeah, I do feel sorry for you. *Just probably not half as sorry for you as you yourself feel?* Good post, otherwise!
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In this world we will all die.So I am not worries for death anymore. I think in this world, we will keep our memories alive.So after our death none of us will remember in this world. Remember our deeds and memories. . Wonderful post @denmarkguy
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Sorry for your loss....i felt great about you had adopted those 3 children as your children that is the really a great step ...should be appreciated by everyone... Coming to the main thing ...it is true and it happens like all around the world.....people do remember fir sometime especially at the time of death & then only memories remain in the hearts of loved ones...these memories also are volatile dont remain for a long time even if does gets buried inside the earth....
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Not sure everyone around me will be dead. My grandmother just turned 105 years and is going strong. I guess we live healthier than you Danes. Anyway, your mother lives on in you, not only in biological sense but also through countless lessons, mannerisms and the way you like your food, all these invisible things that have been imprinted on you. And that you are imprinting on your children matter. We live on in the food we eat, the jokes we like. Besides go to ancestry or check your dna. You might be surprised at how many people share your genetic makeup. It was a surprise to me... but how far does your memory of your ancestors go ? Might be fun...
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I can feel that you will not be forgotten because even if your children are not biologocally your I know in their heart you are their dad and your love will be remembered, When i die, though I'm not ready and I will never be ready π., i wish my baby will remember me and share my love to our next generation... i really don't know what to expect.... π Your thoughts sir @denmarkguy makes me wonderπ
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There is only this moment of Now. Past and future are thought constructs which are non-existent actually. All creations take place in the Now, so our creation's longevity and beauty shares a symbiotic relationship with our focus. Whenever we focus on past or future while creating, our thoughts drag us to outcome instead of the joy during the process. Thing is, when our attention is dragging us to past or future in the meanwhile, then the work is not fulfilling, while being in the Now means Heart-based Joy is a guarantee because we forget everything else around so much joy it I still in us. The Art lies in the "He-Art". So I think that this very Heart we gave to others creates the most artistic, wonderful and succinct memory in them when they think of us. This itself is our legacy. That they remember our Heartfulness, and in doing so try to emulate that Heart focus. The Heart focus is always on the Now. So I don't think about leaving a legacy because it would drag me into the future outcome, thus I lose Heart focus. That is my take on it :)
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i am not a famous man,so my Remembered will be not long lasting.
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They say we live in the hearts of those who love us!!! You can share the memories of your mother and let the blockchain store them for ever....making her essentially immortal....
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Iβm not concerned about leaving behind a legacy, but since I live in a foreign country and will probably be buried here, and also because Iβve taught thousands of students and have been photographed at many school events, I sometimes wonder who will remember me and in what ways.
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Just as it is more important (in my and some others' humble opinions) to love than to be loved...... It is far, far more important to remember than to be remembered! What thoughts, emotions, sensations, and/or experiences will survive the devastation and dissolution of death and the decomposition of your physical body? In any organized and coherent fashion? Anything at all? Do I have a second (astral) body, or not, which survives death? Do I have a "soul" which survives the death of the physical body? You say: **"I don't think much about death; it'll come soon enough, and I'm quite content with the idea of "whatever happens" coming as a surprise."** I have a contrary opinion: that it is important to "die before you die", to practice going through, at least in thought and emotion, the death experience in practice before the "main event" :-) Not that I am saying this is your stance, but just saying in general, wanting to leave an earthly **"legacy"** as a homage to your ego is, again IMHO, a fool's errand. And that despite the fact that this seems to be the greatest ambition of many **"great"** people.
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Too many existential matters are raised here by both @onceuponatime and @denmarkguy (this is one of the VERY FEW European countries I haven't visited yet btw). I would like to also add my point view on the matter. First off, I fully agree with @onceuponatime saying that is WAY more important to love than to be loved. After all, loving unconditionally is the most SUPERIOR feeling a human being can experience (at least that's what science, philosophy and religion claim), while being loved doesn't mean much (if you are not willing to love yourself and others) at the end of the day. There are countless examples of historical figures and celebrities who were loved BY MILLIONS, but ended up dead lonely in hotel rooms. However, the core of this article is death and its "extension" (also impact) to the human mind while we are alive. @denmarkguy wonders: ***Do you ever wonder for how long you'll be remembered, after you die? Do you wonder IF you'll be remembered? And if so, what people will remember? Or are you more concerned with merely "being alive" in this moment? Do you feel it is important to "leave a legacy" for the future, or does it not matter much?*** Again, I agree with @onceuponatime that worrying about your "legacy" is nothing more than "eternal ego," as I once called it in another debate about a similar topic. However, it would be a lie if I said that I don't think of death (with fear mostly). I do not really care what others remember once I am gone, since once they are gone as well, no one will be here to remember anything. Life and death are two unanswered questions in my opinion. Some of us may have faith in one thing or another, while some of us may have experienced more things (supernatural experiences included) than others. Still, in my opinion, NO ONE knows what happens once we die FOR GOOD! Does it matter if we think nowadays that Socrates or Plato were GREAT thinkers and changed the world, since they are not here to see it; feel it; enjoy it; witness it? Can they still make love? Think? Drink wine? Well, I am not sure if they can in where they are now (if there's such a place as afterlife after all) but I know for a FACT that in this world, biologically they are dead; done; finished. They have no mind to think, no eyes to see and no flesh to feel pain or pleasure. My answer to the whole topic is a HUGE "I don't know." What I know is that as @onceuponatime said loving unconditionally, giving and seeing other people happy makes ME happy in this life. I pray and hope there's more once my biological entity is "dead." Even if I am remembered for 50 years once I'm gone by my son, how does this matter TO ME? I want my son to remember a father who LOVED HIM MORE THAN ANYTHING, but NOT FOR ME! For him!!!!! I really don't know. I know that this topic touches me deeply from a really young age (16) when my bestie at that time left his last breathe (in a rave party from overdose) while lying his head on my hands. He was healthy, alive, full of life one moment and next I saw him "turning off" just like that! How? What is life really? Just like that? Then I watched Blade Runner and this scene (arguably the GREATEST SCENE in the history of film) always thrills me with its desperation and honesty. Could our lives be just "tears in rain" after all? The GREAT Ridley Scott could be "alive" forever with this masterpiece...but will it matter to him (I do not mean it in a selfish way) once he's gone? What's "immortality" after all? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWXd1wVijqw
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wow, amazing..
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I really appreciate the part of the puzzle you have shared here @tkappa; welcome to the dialogue! Indeed, perhaps one of the greatest scenes in the history of cinema; certainly one that touched me and sticks with me as a reminder of the ultimate transience of life. And so, it invites the questions *"Did we love well?"* and *"Did we live well?"* which in turn reminds me of the saying *"It is better to travel well than to arrive."* We humans tend to be questioners; I am one myself although I am also at peace with something simply being a great mystery; life and death, perhaps, are such mysteries... and whereas I love these discussions and explorations I have no attachment to the idea that I MUST know what happens at (and after) death... if anything at all. I don't care what other people will remember, or IF they will remember. I don't mean that in a flippant way, but in the sense that I have no control over it, just like I have no control over someone's opinion today, as I live. I try to go about living my life in what I would consider the best and most "right-action based" way I can... how people *respond* to that is theirs, not mine. My mother was greatly concerned about status and influence... yet what I sit with as memories today is that we spent a lot of time in the kitchen together; we were foodies. And that's an illustration of what I mean when I say *"I have no control."* And yes, I also agree with @onceuponatime; *"it is more important to love than to be loved."*
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As always, these are questions I pose for the purpose of discussion, and in hopes that maybe I can stir people's little grey cells into action... even if just for a few moments. Some of these ideas can be difficult to put into mere words; a long time ago I made peace with "not-knowing" a lot of things. Not that I am not *curious,* nor that I don't enjoy these discussions and explorations... but I have no fear of death itself. I believe it is entirely possible that there might be some kind of afterlife or "otherlife" given how many people ponder this and describe not dissimilar near-death experiences. I would also-- at least for me-- submit that whatever "it" might be, it will undoubtedly be far more spectacular and amazing than our current capacity to describe and imagine it. I am also prepared for the eventuality that the lights simply go out one day.... period. I totally agree that "legacies" are just fool's errand and game played by the ego. I'm more inclined to agree with an elderly friend of my late stepfather's who once passed a piece of wisdom to me: *"Shrouds have no pockets."* In fact, he told me this when I was 15, and it has always stuck. Some, though, seem to believe that somehow they can gain some version of continuing (eternal?) life by erecting (symbolic) monuments to themselves, to be remembered by. I ponder this, sometimes, and consider the fact that I-- and most people I know-- are more likely to look at statues and sculptures created as objects of beauty than sculptures of famous/important and "great" people.
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Well said @onceuponatime the ego ties us to illusionary thoughts of being the body.
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Reading you're post reminded me of something someone said to me once, *When do you think a person dies?* *When the are shot in the head by a bullet?* *When they are ravaged by an **incurable** disease* *When they drink a soup made from poisonous mushroom?* **No....it's when they are forgotten** I try to live my life by this code, so that people remember a hundred years after my death.
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One day someone might say "shit that guy left a lot of strange crap on the internet" but I won't be around to hear them... ![](https://steemitimages.com/DQmexFicwHDJdkCsvWDUZaXY3dwnE9UW9nQ1wcRWqkCLkWD/image.png)
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LOL
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/α .q.α\\
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Every night I'm dying, every morning I'm born again. Meanwhile - enjoying the path and getting inspiration from inside. I think words (vibrations) are what others will remember. Infinitely circulating and changing energy.
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Daily Learn some new from your post. Love to read it.
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wow you are totaly right @denmarkguy
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My Mother and I actually had this conversation and she said people remember you for about 50 years and then you are gone. I meditate and connect on another level and have an awareness that I am not the body. Attachment to this body is strong however one day like you say we must leave it behind. I enjoyed your post and am resteeming it for others to enjoy! π
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After loosing both parents within a couple of years of one another, it became much more apparent just how alone we are in this world. Leaving a legacy seems to become more important as we age. I must say that loving others has always been more important than any other kind of mark I could possibly leave on this world. Letβs just hope that is enough.
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