RE: SteemWorld Update / New Tool Available / Abuse Finder by dr-frankenstein

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steemworld · @dr-frankenstein · Apr 22 '20 (edited)

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>I guess because of fear of retaliation!

>I guess, because he is not powering down.

In my opinion, you have both a valid point.

That's one of the reasons why we launched an initiative that you can found [here](https://steemit.com/steem/@symbionts/symbiont-s-or-anti-abuse-initiative-or-steem-sentinels).

Having an independent entity that focuses solely on tackling abuse is something that we should really be thinking about.


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@jaki01 · Apr 21 '20

$0.20

I like your idea.

In my opinion, in addition there has also to be done anything against personal 'flag wars', otherwise you won't be able to convince people who fear these kinds of flags. In the past many users have left STEEM because they were harassed by certain whales. You already know <a href="https://steemit.com/steem/@jaki01/can-we-have-downvotes-and-at-the-same-time-prevent-flag-wars">my idea</a> of implementing a committee.

If your "independent entity" could solve that problem, too, I would be even happier. :)

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@crypto.piotr · Apr 22 '20

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I wish it would be possible to DELEGATE downvoting resource credits.

Let's say that I would be willing to downvote some abusers, but I would be worried to get hurt. I could delegate my downvoting power to someone larger (like yourself) knowing that you will take that risk on your shoulders.

Cheers

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@dr-frankenstein · Apr 22 '20 (edited)

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I remember that several delegators got hit before just because they delegated SP to curation projects that fought abuse.  

I was thinking about doing such a thing with `ecosynthesizer`. To use the SP of users to fight abuse, along with providing a passive income to our delegators, and curation. 

It is a risk that I may take since the current situation is truly alarming. We hope to receive more support for our project [Steem Sentinel], but in the meantime, we must do what we can with what we have right now.

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@dr-frankenstein · Apr 22 '20 (edited)

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Definitely, a committee is really necessary. What I like about having an Independent entity to fight abuse is that it will operate and act as a [**Nuclear Deterrent Mechanism**]. 

>Deterrence theory holds that nuclear weapons are intended to deter other states from attacking with their nuclear weapons, through the promise of retaliation and possibly mutually assured destruction (MAD).

People with power will be more inclined to move on and avoid abusing their power. 

What if the entity starts abusing its power? It will be pointless, the account Will have a lot of limitations, and the community will have the final decision on whether the account should be terminated or not. 


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@jaki01 · Apr 22 '20

Sure, why not ... however, there could also be guidelines / rules / limitations for a 'committee account'.

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@moeknows · Apr 22 '20

$0.08

An independent entity is only independent until it isn't anymore. This has already been done. It was kind of effective. But I don't think it is the answer.

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@dr-frankenstein · Apr 22 '20 (edited)

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The idea of [`isn't anymore`] should only be based on a community consensus. To mitigate potential abuse by such entity, more measures can be implemented as mentioned here:

https://steemit.com/steem/@symbionts/q93b9z

I am gathering more information on this subject from the community, and it would be great if you could share your thoughts on what you think could be the solution.
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@crypto.piotr · Apr 22 '20

"intuitive " ? 

ps. thx for sharing link to this post. Indeed interesting concept.

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