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# Bots 4 Bots Well, I’m sure some people will or already are creating bots to post to the bots for the bots to upvote? It’s a bot world and some of these people just don’t want to interact with humans. I’m not sure what kind of sad world some of them live in but I don’t want any part of that! The biggest issue will be for how long will these people still be getting the ROI on both ends? What I find interesting is some of these people are delegating just about all there SP to a bid bot than spending what they earn from that and their rewards to buy more bids. What kind of hyperinflation world do these people want to live in? I would just love to see more control in how trending and hot are presented. # Should they be doing more for communities around them? When I look at bid bot system and how easy it is for anyone to exploit it I just wonder why they don’t try and protect themselves more. If all their investors suddenly decide it’s no longer worth the steem they make every week for the amount of damage they are doing and take back there delegation they start to become rather powerless. One thing I’m a bit shocked by and perhaps I’ve just never noticed. Why are they not giving out free votes to high-quality undervalued content/creators? If that is the “purpose” of these things like some people claim. Should they not be the ones every week going out and showcasing 10 posts a week or more for free? Surely their investors can’t get upset about that as its showcasing the true power and lead by example of what is considered a quality post at different price points. If we think about it from an “advertisement” standpoint. Then they should all place themselves behind a paywall and kick bad actors. It’s one thing for these people to have their vote pulled or be downvote on a couple of open posts they have. It's another thing if they are out 20-100 SBD they had to pay for membership on top of buying votes. When people don’t feel invested in something they have no reason to respect it. There a reason why if a site runs annoying bad ads people block them. Even more so when some of these ads on sites have malice intent. They get removed as soon as discovered. It just looks bad on the advertisement providers if they don’t create an end-user experience that people are willing to put up with. Which is why people started to create ad-blocker extensions in the first place.
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> When I look at bid bot system and how easy it is for anyone to exploit it I just wonder why they don’t try and protect themselves more. If all their investors suddenly decide it’s no longer worth the steem they make every week for the amount of damage they are doing and take back there delegation they start to become rather powerless. Many have earned enough to a decent-sized bot with their own SP. > One thing I’m a bit shocked by and perhaps I’ve just never noticed. Why are they not giving out free votes to high-quality undervalued content/creators? A very cool idea! But why do that when you can upvote your alt. accounts? > If we think about it from an “advertisement” standpoint. Then they should all place themselves behind a paywall and kick bad actors. It’s one thing for these people to have their vote pulled or be downvote on a couple of open posts they have. It's another thing if they are out 20-100 SBD they had to pay for membership on top of buying votes. Worth exploring as an idea but > Time/management/costs = reduced ROI. ----------------- Thanks for the comments, I hope others add more ideas here :)
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One of the trends I’ve been noticing over past few months is I’m getting smaller votes from the same people. It’s not that they are giving me a lower percent. It’s that they have delegated a large holding of their SP. In their wallet you see them being paid out every so often for doing so. Which makes me wonder. How self-made are these bidbots when compared all other delegations they get? As far as lower ROI. They have lower ROI every time they have to pull votes or the community as a whole downvoters what they have upvote. Not to mention if someone with massive SP decided to just target one bidbot over another due to “ethical reasons” people will start to go elsewhere. ROI will drop as a result for the owner/investors for not being a good Steemit citizen. Meanwhile if someone was playing the field onto a more “I’m an ethical” bidbot service they could charge the premium of a membership fee if they could prove posts are less likely to be down voted when compared to their competitors. Not to mention if people who were delegating to them where getting a bigger return than well they just have more of a reason to keep doing business with them. Granted I’m not sure why I’m saying this here. I don’t want them to make even more over the long run. I would just prefer since we are stuck with this situation that overall the platform gets a better experience than we currently are. I Just find it odd if I go and post something right now with just the letter A I could give one of these places 40 SBD right now and they have no issues just using there voting power to up vote that. You would think that would be reserved for their top customers who they have not had many issues with in the past and are not going cost them losing out on that curation rewards along with getting called out by the community for upvoting that post by so much. In the long run the more users who get sick and tired of it the more someone going do something about it. At some point there got be that breaking point where certain types of posts only show up in promoted section since they are in fact being promoted by buying the votes in the first place.
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> One of the trends I’ve been noticing over past few months is I’m getting smaller votes from the same people. It’s not that they are giving me a lower percent. It’s that they have delegated a large holding of their SP. In their wallet you see them being paid out every so often for doing so. I've seen the same happen and read others reporting this. > At some point there got be that breaking point where certain types of posts only show up in promoted section since they are in fact being promoted by buying the votes in the first place. I think this is on the cards down the road, we can hope :)
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