What is Happening to Bitcoin? by gduran

View this thread on steempeak.com
· @gduran · (edited)
$1.06
What is Happening to Bitcoin?
![](https://steemitimages.com/DQmNqtdBTR1f6BuQezSC3Dvu1pYBT6cgDko8rbFbtQvy9Wd/image.png)
[Source](www.coingecko.com)

So Bitcoin's price is down by over 30% in a matter of 2 weeks. The cause is supposed to be the Chinese government's new policies regarding ICO's and Bitcoin exchanges. The ICO clampdown should not be any problem for Bitcoin, as for closing the Chinese exchanges, I would guess most people who had Bitcoin in these exchanges be they Chinese or from other countries will have withdrawn all their coins from these exchanges.

Let's look at this from this perspective, who in China holds Bitcoin? Only the people who can afford it, better said the elite, because the great majority of the Chinese population lives on salaries, (even though increasingly higher in the last couple of decades and their quality of life has vastly improved), that while livable in China, as they are enough for basics, you know like food, transportation, housing, utilities, this income is not enough for these working people to be investing their money on something like Bitcoin.

The only working class people who can afford to buy or invest in Bitcoin are people living in first world countries, better said most of Europe, Canada, US, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, and probably South Korea and Taiwan. In any other country only people who are in the top 10% of earnings can invest in BTC. Of course Steem is different, I can get some Steem just by writing so I don't include Steem in this type of analysis.

So what I want to know is, if in reality the only Chinese who hold Bitcoin are affluent people, and Bitcoin is held in wallets that are supposed to be safe from prying and anyway only the owner of a wallet who holds the keys can touch this BTC, why would the Chinese be panic selling and doing it at such low prices that it has driven down the price of BTC this much? It doesn't make much sense does it?

So I think what we have are speculators and the huge whales moving the price according to their best interests, you might say how can lowering the price and therefore lowering the value of their holdings make any sense. Well it does make sense if you think like this, a few weeks back BTC was at 4,000 and going up I can imagine a lot of upper middle class people and even rich ones putting their money into this coin.

Now suppose someone made a loan for 900,000 USD and bought say 230 BTC, the price went up to 5,000 but these person after all the hype about BTC probably going up to 10 grand didn't sell expecting to make a killing, well when the price started going down they still didn't sell as it was just a temporary glitch, but maybe right now they have to pay back their loan or lose whatever collateral they put up for it.

A lot of people will probably be panic selling, and rightly so, because they are probably in a very tight situation, and it is better to lose 1 or 2 hundred grand than lose everything. So the huge whales are probably now buying a lot of BTC at a relatively low price and they will most probably be the ones making a killing. Because if you have a few spare million dollars you can do this otherwise you are in a difficult situation.

So, again, I see no difference between crypto currency and stocks or fiat currency, all are actually based on nothing and make people respond to the financial movement in a herd manner doing what everyone is doing except of course those who are in the know, no difference between the crypto world and the real world.

So again I say people who think crypto is a world saver and is going to change the whole financial world are not right, I don't think crypto is going to disappear, but I don't think it will be the game changer many people expect it to be. Now of course for my part I want it to succeed especially Steem, but I think it will be an ongoing effort for a long time.
👍  , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,
properties (23)
post_id12,865,052
authorgduran
permlinkwhat-is-happening-to-bitcoin
categorybitcoin
json_metadata"{"app": "steemit/0.1", "format": "markdown", "links": ["www.coingecko.com"], "image": ["https://steemitimages.com/DQmNqtdBTR1f6BuQezSC3Dvu1pYBT6cgDko8rbFbtQvy9Wd/image.png"], "tags": ["bitcoin", "steem", "price", "china"]}"
created2017-09-15 00:24:51
last_update2017-09-15 00:41:18
depth0
children5
net_rshares378,740,257,698
last_payout2017-09-22 00:24:51
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.921 SBD
curator_payout_value0.141 SBD
pending_payout_value0.000 SBD
promoted0.000 SBD
body_length3,859
author_reputation76,834,373,699,494
root_title"What is Happening to Bitcoin?"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 SBD
percent_steem_dollars10,000
author_curate_reward""
vote details (49)
@lindabasilick ·
$0.03
Interesting observations.  I think you could be right.  following
👍  
properties (23)
post_id12,865,292
authorlindabasilick
permlinkre-gduran-what-is-happening-to-bitcoin-20170915t012936518z
categorybitcoin
json_metadata"{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["bitcoin"]}"
created2017-09-15 00:29:24
last_update2017-09-15 00:29:24
depth1
children0
net_rshares10,230,498,493
last_payout2017-09-22 00:29:24
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.027 SBD
curator_payout_value0.000 SBD
pending_payout_value0.000 SBD
promoted0.000 SBD
body_length65
author_reputation229,086,765,276
root_title"What is Happening to Bitcoin?"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 SBD
percent_steem_dollars10,000
author_curate_reward""
vote details (1)
@minnowsupport ·
$0.03
<p>Congratulations!  This post has been upvoted from the communal account, @minnowsupport, by gduran from the Minnow Support Project.  It's a witness project run by aggroed, ausbitbank, teamsteem, theprophet0, someguy123, neoxian, followbtcnews/crimsonclad, and netuoso.  The goal is to help Steemit grow by supporting Minnows and creating a social network.  Please find us in the <a href="https://discord.gg/HYj4yvw">Peace, Abundance, and Liberty Network (PALnet) Discord Channel</a>.  It's a completely public and open space to all members of the Steemit community who voluntarily choose to be there.</p>
👍  
properties (23)
post_id12,866,543
authorminnowsupport
permlinkre-gduran-what-is-happening-to-bitcoin-20170915t005348864z
categorybitcoin
json_metadata"{"app": "cosgrove/0.0.1rc9", "tags": ["bitcoin"]}"
created2017-09-15 00:53:48
last_update2017-09-15 00:53:48
depth1
children0
net_rshares10,142,100,545
last_payout2017-09-22 00:53:48
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.027 SBD
curator_payout_value0.000 SBD
pending_payout_value0.000 SBD
promoted0.000 SBD
body_length607
author_reputation104,981,098,086,561
root_title"What is Happening to Bitcoin?"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 SBD
percent_steem_dollars10,000
author_curate_reward""
vote details (1)
@trending ·
$0.18
> So, again, I see no difference between crypto currency and stocks or fiat currency, all are actually based on nothing and make people respond to the financial movement in a herd manner doing what everyone is doing except of course those who are in the know, no difference between the crypto world and the real world.

For sure, but I'd take crypto (even ICOs) over stocks and fiat any day because it's more competitive, faster growing, and any one can issue their own cryptocurrency for any reason while having bigger cryptos like Bitcoin as the "gold standard."

Crypto value certainly goes up in the same way (and for the same reasons and by the same people) though, but that's because whales are always the one moving the needle one way or another. The difference with crypto is that more whales are made everytime a new (well-marketed and technically sound) currency is issued.

You're right, I don't think Bitcoin will ever be "#1" and the "only currency" unless a country like the U.S. adopts it and backs it with military power (fat chance, why would they?) 

But I'm just happy taking the gains and getting more buying power for my savings over the long-term. In the words of "Whose Line is it Anyway?" - it's all made up and the points don't matter.
👍  ,
properties (23)
post_id12,867,304
authortrending
permlinkre-gduran-what-is-happening-to-bitcoin-20170915t010832908z
categorybitcoin
json_metadata"{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["bitcoin"]}"
created2017-09-15 01:08:33
last_update2017-09-15 01:08:33
depth1
children0
net_rshares66,764,856,938
last_payout2017-09-22 01:08:33
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.140 SBD
curator_payout_value0.044 SBD
pending_payout_value0.000 SBD
promoted0.000 SBD
body_length1,260
author_reputation3,530,024,972,859
root_title"What is Happening to Bitcoin?"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 SBD
percent_steem_dollars10,000
author_curate_reward""
vote details (2)
@everittdmickey ·
$0.03
It's the [Norks](https://steemit.com/newzleakz/@everittdmickey/hackers-linked-to-north-korea)
👍  
properties (23)
post_id12,868,499
authoreverittdmickey
permlinkre-gduran-what-is-happening-to-bitcoin-20170915t013153089z
categorybitcoin
json_metadata"{"app": "steemit/0.1", "links": ["https://steemit.com/newzleakz/@everittdmickey/hackers-linked-to-north-korea"], "tags": ["bitcoin"]}"
created2017-09-15 01:31:54
last_update2017-09-15 01:31:54
depth1
children0
net_rshares9,719,513,023
last_payout2017-09-22 01:31:54
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.021 SBD
curator_payout_value0.005 SBD
pending_payout_value0.000 SBD
promoted0.000 SBD
body_length93
author_reputation235,625,463,700,046
root_title"What is Happening to Bitcoin?"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 SBD
percent_steem_dollars10,000
author_curate_reward""
vote details (1)
@chessmasterhex ·
Yeah, I just bought back from some money in my exchange, next day, BTC is worth 30% less, so I am in the waiting game yet again ;)
properties (22)
post_id13,045,756
authorchessmasterhex
permlinkre-gduran-what-is-happening-to-bitcoin-20170917t092124911z
categorybitcoin
json_metadata"{"app": "steemit/0.1", "tags": ["bitcoin"]}"
created2017-09-17 09:21:24
last_update2017-09-17 09:21:24
depth1
children0
net_rshares0
last_payout2017-09-24 09:21:24
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 SBD
curator_payout_value0.000 SBD
pending_payout_value0.000 SBD
promoted0.000 SBD
body_length130
author_reputation997,444,842,106
root_title"What is Happening to Bitcoin?"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 SBD
percent_steem_dollars10,000