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Do you have sources for the information just within the first part of that meme image? I am finding information directly crossing off the first big thing on that list which negates reading the rest of it. I wish when people made meme images, they would cite sources or provide full information instead of statements, but I guess that is what makes them memes. This is what I have found: "Fossil fuel-based energy is responsible for about 80% of total greenhouse gasemissions as compared to about 6% from animal agriculture" World GHG Emissions Flow Chart can be seen here http://www.wri.org/resources/charts-graphs/us-greenhouse-gas-emissions-flow-chart "Animal agriculture and meat consumption are significant contributors to global warming, but far less so than fossil fuel combustion. Moreover, fossil fuels are an even bigger contributor to the problem in developed countries, which use more energy and have increased livestock production efficiency" http://www.ncfar.org/MITLOEHNER_091911.pdf Neither of the sources I read discount that eating animals and livestock use causes issues, but the statement that it is the "leading cause" is so damning. It reminds me of all those [D.A.R.E. programs in school that existed but they show don't work](https://priceonomics.com/dare-the-anti-drug-program-that-never-actually/). I believe part of that was because they would exaggerate things about the drugs, so when the kids found the reality of them, they could no longer trust D.A.R.E. as a source for information. I do not wish this to happen with vegan stuff more so than it already is, the extreme fear tactic is not a positive way (I won't say it doesn't work sometimes, but it never works long term).
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Carbon Monoxide from cows 51%.
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On top of only being 18-19% from the source you linked as well as another I found, I keep not seeing specific numbers on cows, but more on livestock. Also, not all cows that are livestock, and not all livestock itself , are being raised just to be eaten. I want to believe. You should check out this discussion between people on this topic, a good debate that I feel brings out excellent points about that types of gas livestock would have versus a vehicle http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=77718 I wish someone would just the update the image, because it is not like the information could not be presented in a way that is fun and informative but also be true.
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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/jun/02/un-report-meat-free-diet
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This link you are providing does not list any 51%, but only "19% of the worldβs greenhouse gas emissions" Another source says 18% http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2014/04/cow-farts-really-significantly-contribute-global-warming/
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Vegan 4 life
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Very succinct and to the point!
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But unfortunately not fully factual, this is hurting more causes than it is helping by spreading false information.
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I dunno what you wanna prove or disprove here. From the links and points you made on the above comment thread : >"Fossil fuel-based energy is responsible for about 80% of total greenhouse gas emissions as compared to about 6% from animal agriculture" it looks like you are questioning the data about GHG emission by quoting some 15-20 years old report that is specific to US. Please also take into account the following reports: 1. [World Watch Institute](http://www.worldwatch.org/files/pdf/Livestock%20and%20Climate%20Change.pdf) 2. [Georgetown Environmental Law Review. October 23, 2015. (New)](https://gelr.org/2015/10/23/a-leading-cause-of-everything-one-industry-that-is-destroying-our-planet-and-our-ability-to-thrive-on-it-georgetown-environmental-law-review/) 3. [Independent, 2009](http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/study-claims-meat-creates-half-of-all-greenhouse-gases-1812909.html) And mind that these reports were out after the further researches when United Nations report claimed that emissions from animal agriculture industry at 18% is far greater than all fossil fuel transport combined (only 13%): [FAO Report - Livestock's Long Shadow, 2006](http://www.fao.org/newsroom/en/news/2006/1000448/index.html) However [the latest FAO report](https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2013/sep/26/greenhouse-gas-emissions-livestock) lowers that number a bit but it's still higher than the emissions by transportation industry. This is even when you consider the IPCC's new guidelines for calculating greenhouse gas production. I'm not contradicting your data, you made a valid point about a single nation i.e. USA. The latest [EPA report](https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emissions) clearly states that the largest source of greenhouse gas emissions from human activities in the United States is from burning fossil fuels for electricity, heat, and transportation. But this doesn't take into account the consumption of livestock through imports. It would be much better if you consider the global stats instead of looking at the stats of a single country. There are even reports for projection which projects that by 2050 this emission will reach 80%. [Read more here](http://academic.regis.edu/MFRANCO/Seminar%20in%20Biology%20research%20Literature/Papers/GobalDiets.pdf) about it. I'd like to add that by strongly contradicting such data, you are not helping any cause. Tell me, what cause it hurts even if data is slightly off (though it is not!)? You would also love to watch the documentary "Cowspiracy" which will make all data and controversies black & white for you. Thank you for taking time to research this data further!
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