### I really don't know what purpose this is supposed to serve. Perhaps if *every* whale had come to an agreement not to use their flags for a fixed 48 hour period, then we could see some results that mattered. For some reason though, this experiment has been started by only a few whales. I am ecstatic that people are making the effort to improve upon some of the issues here on Steemit, but there is no point doing so if it is not going to be done properly. ### Two wrongs don't make a right, and they certainly don't make for more accurate data. At the moment, the fact that not every whale has committed to the experiment is being addressed by downvoting any posts that have been upvoted by a whale. This would perhaps make sense, if every whale had the exact same amount of STEEM Power, but they do not, and so this is not helping the results at all. Also, the "counterbalancing" of whale votes is being executed terribly. I had one of my first decent payouts in over a month, thanks to a vote by one of the founders, and my reward for writing an article worthy of 16 resteems and an upvote from Dan, is to receive not one, but *four* whale downvotes in an effort to "balance" things up. My reputation takes a hit because I posted a good piece? Lol. It's good to help, but if you're going to try, do it properly. The results of this little experiment will tell us nothing, because the data is tainted. Plenty of whales have voted and the downvotes only corrupt the payouts further. # Advice If I were you, I would go out of your way ***not*** to write a brilliant piece until this experiment is over, for if you do, it may earn a whale vote, proceeded by several whale flags that will leave you worse off than before you posted anything. Go for a mediocre post that isn't quite special enough to garner a whale vote, and you may do a lot better. *** One final thing, is that all this lack of whale voting does is give people with bots and sock-puppet accounts as much power as the whales had, so this sort of experiment shouldn't even be conducted until that issue has been addressed.
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thejohalfiles | 0 | 7,421,352,173,654 | 88% | ||
mokluc | 0 | 41,693,706,895 | 100% | ||
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sqube | 0 | 2,976,145,281 | 1% | ||
whatageek | 0 | 898,516,735 | 1% | ||
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Yes, I agree with you. Do we (minnows) feel like lab rats for whales ? Why they do not test about this to their own communitiy (whales only).
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author | happyphoenix |
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I wouldn't mind the experiment, even if it made us lab rats, as long as it was useful. But, for it to be useful, every whale would need to be involved, and it would need to be over a 48 hour period to account for payout extensions. This is completely unscientific, and we will learn nothing of value from it, so all it is doing is hurting the platform. My post seems to be drawing traffic from YouTube too, and if they had seen a suitable payout they may have considered joining Steemit, now they see 175 likes, and next to no payout, so they will think this site is shit.
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is this really what is going on? has any whale posted about it or confirmed? :/
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abit posted about it, not too long ago, but then downvoted my post and thecryptofiend's that were upvoted by whales long before the experiment was said to have began. But, yes, I really think we ought to have been told about something like this in advance. This has likely fucked over quite a few people, and for no good reason as we won't learn shit about what kind of difference would have been made.
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At least some are trying to do something. Whales hating on minnows and dolphins is insane. It's killing Steemit and good content creators are leaving. ![whale fail.gif](https://steemitimages.com/DQmXok3oLvePKNhxSCL4wiUd7eWwMTs1UwfbDDENEF7rUdy/whale%20fail.gif)
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I'm with you on that, and I believe steps ought to be taken. I am even putting a lot of work in myself to help Steemit in whatever way I can. But, every time I try and help with one problem, another one pops up and it's beginning to feel like a game of wack-a-mole. I have sacrificed a lot to do my part for this platform, and even I am beginning to feel that my time would better spent elsewhere. I love the idea of Steemit. It was one of the most exciting things I had read about in a long time and I was ecstatic to come and join. But, the concept is infinitely better than the reality, and I think I have been in denial telling myself that I have the power to make things better. All I see is shit getting worse and half-arsed, spontaneous and illogical attempts to do better. We really need to communicate with each other a lot more and we might still have a chance to solve some of these issues.
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root_title | "Why This "No Whale Vote" Experiment Is A Useless Endeavor + Some Advice" |
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pitterpatter | 0 | 6,279,934,125 | 100% |
I hope you're wrong. I have only seen a few whales downvote and hate on minnows and dolphins. As a new person I get so many different answers. Now, I am only going to take in the ones that have been trustworthy. Some whales seem to enjoy messing with new people knowing they don't know what is going on and are just learning. I have no idea why they would want to discourage new people like this. I will call you a hero for trying to make things better. Sometimes the best thing to do is step back and research google and other search engines to see what is going on. Thank you for all you are trying to do for Steemit.
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son-of-satire | 0 | 42,855,557,715 | 100% |
I want to see what happens.
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mestyz | 0 | 91,165,934 | 100% |
I want to see what happens, under good conditions that provide accurate information. What will you learn at the end of this experiment? Nothing. If it turns out that the posts with 400+ votes and less than 40% of them by people who viewed the post, we will find out that curation trails have power. Something we already know. But, we won't even know how much, because there has been an imbalance of whale votes and whale flags on posts. I know that if you took Dan's vote away from my post, and excluded the whale flags, I'd have more than $0.50. And how many others also have inconsistent values on their posts. When you add that all up, I wouldn't be surprised if we're looking at a 50% loss in efficacy in regards to the experiment, and so whatever we learn will be up for debate. That's not science at all. That's guess work.
post_id | 2,134,182 |
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author | son-of-satire |
permlink | re-reddust-re-son-of-satire-why-this-no-whale-vote-experiment-is-a-useless-endeavor-some-advice-20170313t011226907z |
category | wtf |
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pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
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author_reputation | 93,804,186,663,981 |
root_title | "Why This "No Whale Vote" Experiment Is A Useless Endeavor + Some Advice" |
beneficiaries | [] |
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percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
author_curate_reward | "" |
voter | weight | wgt% | rshares | pct | time |
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reddust | 0 | 75,251,217,379 | 100% |
I've already noticed the deference in my posts and I didn't know about the experiment this morning. I was thinking I pissed off the whales by taking a hardline against flagging to even out awards. I'm hopping this experiment will give added incentive to figure out a better way regarding voting on content. Right now and I'm not a mathematician @abit idea regarding pure linear distribution sounds good. But I'm totally at a loss how to cure our extreme voting disparity. If the problem is solved we may solve our economic problems in the real world too! 🤑 https://steemit.com/curation/@abit/benefits-of-pure-linear-reward-distribution
post_id | 2,134,323 |
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author | reddust |
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category | wtf |
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created | 2017-03-13 01:38:48 |
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depth | 3 |
children | 4 |
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total_payout_value | 0.363 SBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.120 SBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
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body_length | 637 |
author_reputation | 154,485,914,790,267 |
root_title | "Why This "No Whale Vote" Experiment Is A Useless Endeavor + Some Advice" |
beneficiaries | [] |
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percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
author_curate_reward | "" |
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pairmike | 0 | 29,902,415,322 | 100% | ||
gavvet | 0 | 2,861,674,686,146 | 100% | ||
steve-walschot | 0 | 163,487,918,183 | 100% | ||
dirty.hera | 0 | 143,182,171 | 100% | ||
safar01 | 0 | 14,065,114,991 | 100% | ||
ejhaasteem | 0 | 20,701,078,332 | 100% | ||
tamersameeh | 0 | 590,053,935 | 100% | ||
steemnews24 | 0 | 98,713,109 | 100% | ||
mestyz | 0 | 91,165,934 | 100% | ||
kamidela | 0 | 51,026,950 | 100% |
I take one day off from steemit and..what the hell is going on?? And to what post are you referring?
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author | dreemit |
permlink | re-son-of-satire-why-this-no-whale-vote-experiment-is-a-useless-endeavor-some-advice-20170313t013522006z |
category | wtf |
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root_title | "Why This "No Whale Vote" Experiment Is A Useless Endeavor + Some Advice" |
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Lol. Some experiment that seems to have entirely no planning gone into it. I was referring to this post. https://steemit.com/satire/@son-of-satire/scientists-prove-that-conspiracy-theorists-are-mentally-ill I'm not typically one to complain, but where is the logic in using four whale flags to neutralize only one whale upvote? If this is really about retaining the purity of the results then efforts should be taken to balance the STEEM power used to downvote posts that have been upvoted by whales. I wouldn't mind it if my post was downvoted because someone considered it to be shit. Or even if simply because they did not like me personally. But for my first decent payout in quite some time, which has only been the case because of how much I have spoken out in attempts to help Steemit, to be downvoted four times because it was *too* good, and earned a vote from dan... It's fucking silly. Lol.
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author | son-of-satire |
permlink | re-dreemit-re-son-of-satire-why-this-no-whale-vote-experiment-is-a-useless-endeavor-some-advice-20170313t014114033z |
category | wtf |
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https://i.imgflip.com/1lahcu.jpg
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root_title | "Why This "No Whale Vote" Experiment Is A Useless Endeavor + Some Advice" |
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Oh man, your post was at like $30 wasn't it? And it's a really good one. That is so frustrating. Especially since it hurts rep.
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root_title | "Why This "No Whale Vote" Experiment Is A Useless Endeavor + Some Advice" |
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canadian-coconut | 0 | 7,186,876,687 | 6% |
Was at 40ish and 5th on the trending list before I noticed the first two flags, that knocked it down to 5 dollars. Then two more came along and knocked it down to $0.47 cents. Lol. So yes, that is somewhat annoying when taking my recent streak of low rewards, but the rep is probably more of a problem. I didn't actually lose anything with the payout, only had something I was maybe going to get be taken away. But, with the rep, I literally spent my time on writing an article in order to receive a loss.. It's not hard getting from 68 to 69 when you have next to no whale support and no curation trail backing regardless of quality.. So, for me to make a post that so many people seem to have loved and then end up on a lower rep then before I started, is really fucking silly.
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root_title | "Why This "No Whale Vote" Experiment Is A Useless Endeavor + Some Advice" |
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canadian-coconut | 0 | 7,186,876,687 | 6% |
Holy crap I'd be upset. This is what I don't get about the whole flagging to "balance" or redistribute rewards, which in theory, I don't have a problem with except **the flag hurts rep**. Which means it is a flag, for flagging plagiarism and shit, at least until a down vote is added or the flag no longer hurts rep. I'm just encouraged by all this not to post until the experiment is over.
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root_title | "Why This "No Whale Vote" Experiment Is A Useless Endeavor + Some Advice" |
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It is a useless endeavor because the approach taken is through the mathematical lens, but the human aspect is missing. The flagging issue for me is more like bullying and I cannot condone that. Just because someone has more SP they go around flaunting it by downvoting a post to reduce rewards, just because they can, and without respect to the other voters who thought it was worth their vote. And as I can do nothing about it, I have stopped posting till things become clearer. I also agree with you when you say > If I were you, I would go out of your way not to write a brilliant piece until this experiment is over, as it is no fun to wait with bated breath, and fingers crossed, to pray that your payout does not cross a certain limit because "whales", who have never written a decent post, will strike you down arbitrarily. I have faith in the currency and have started learning to trade till then, but I do get a feeling these people will ultimately kill the blogging/social media part of it, and that sucks as I was having fun, till they took the "fun" part out with their nonsense logic.
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author | norbu |
permlink | re-son-of-satire-why-this-no-whale-vote-experiment-is-a-useless-endeavor-some-advice-20170313t043225648z |
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root_title | "Why This "No Whale Vote" Experiment Is A Useless Endeavor + Some Advice" |
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I also disagree with this reasoning behind flagging, but that's not actually what is going on here right now. It's an experiment to see how things would be if no whale used their votes, but not all the whales are on board. If someone upvotes a post with a lot of weight, the whales who are involved find the post and destroy it to regain "balance." I do believe their intent is pure, but their execution is deeply flawed.
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author | son-of-satire |
permlink | re-norbu-re-son-of-satire-why-this-no-whale-vote-experiment-is-a-useless-endeavor-some-advice-20170313t125409855z |
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root_title | "Why This "No Whale Vote" Experiment Is A Useless Endeavor + Some Advice" |
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I'm planning to post a cool arts-and-crafts photo tutorial tomorrow. It cost me money to buy supplies, time to make, and more time when I type it out. If it gets flagged, I will be unhappy. If I am unhappy, I will be less likely to continue my active participation in this platform. How does this benefit anyone?
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author | jacobtothe |
permlink | re-son-of-satire-why-this-no-whale-vote-experiment-is-a-useless-endeavor-some-advice-20170313t052253195z |
category | wtf |
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created | 2017-03-13 05:22:54 |
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root_title | "Why This "No Whale Vote" Experiment Is A Useless Endeavor + Some Advice" |
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hagbardceline | 0 | 29,036,048,903 | 100% |
I'm with you... I see no point in conducting an experiment under anything but perfect conditions, and these are far from it. It's up to you, but you could just save that particular post for a later date if you're worried it might be good enough to get a whale upvote, that would then lead to two, three or four whale downvotes.
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author | son-of-satire |
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created | 2017-03-13 12:51:12 |
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root_title | "Why This "No Whale Vote" Experiment Is A Useless Endeavor + Some Advice" |
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jacobtothe | 0 | 34,258,728,283 | 100% |
I'm completely with you @son-of-satire. Is there any official explanation about this experiment and its purpose? When will it end again?
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gamer00 | 0 | 276,739,007,953 | 100% | ||
son-of-satire | 0 | 44,644,171,025 | 100% | ||
steemspeak | 0 | 179,273,488 | 0.01% | ||
ambyr00 | 0 | 6,032,521,673 | 100% |
No idea when it will end but, the best explanation you're going to get about it will come from @timcliff's most recent post.
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author | son-of-satire |
permlink | re-hagbardceline-re-son-of-satire-why-this-no-whale-vote-experiment-is-a-useless-endeavor-some-advice-20170313t124847084z |
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Downvoted to counteract upvoting from other whales. More info here: https://steemit.com/test/@abit/whales-no-up-voting-test
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author | abit |
permlink | re-son-of-satire-why-this-no-whale-vote-experiment-is-a-useless-endeavor-some-advice-20170313t130223423z |
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Well, why not eh? You already gave me a higher deduction in reward shares than was received by the whale upvote on my last post that was trending, which has somehow still has managed to garner more views and comments than the current top three trending posts combined. I'll notify you the next time I make a post so that you can downvote that one way more than it was upvoted too.
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author | son-of-satire |
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