My Reply To @cryptogee's Post: Antidote To The Steemit Complain Game by stino-san

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My Reply To @cryptogee's Post: Antidote To The Steemit Complain Game
#### Hi Steemians,

I just finished reading @cryptogee's post [Antidote To The Steemit Complain Game - Lessons In Winning From A Five Year Old](https://steemit.com/steem/@cryptogee/antidote-to-the-steemit-compain-game-lessons-in-winning-from-a-five-year-old) If you haven't read it i highly suggest that you do. As with all things Cryptogee it is an interesting read to say the least.

It is usually not my style to dedicate an entire post to someone else's content but because it is a subject that i had previously been contemplating i do feel like i need to reply and give my thoughts on this subject. For the convenience of writing, this post will be written directly to Cryptogee.

Here we go :)

If i was to make a list of my favorite contributors the name @cryptogee would undoubtably be somewhere at the top of that list. Ever since i joined this platform you are one of the few top contributors that i have actually had an interaction with and that have reached out, the other one would be @cass . **Your apparent positive attitude is a blessing that resonates through this platform and its community.**

You mentioning me out of the blue in your post: [10 Unsung Heroes Of Steem](https://steemit.com/heroesofsteem/@cryptogee/10-unsung-heroes-of-steem) is something that i won't easily forget, i hiiiiighly appreciate the fact that you looked at my work and thought it was worthy of mentioning it in your post. It also had an amazing effect on my pay outs (more on that later) So i wanted to extend my gratitude for that, **THANK YOU!**

That said, after reading your latest post i have to admit that i disagree with many things that you've written and i wanted to go over your post to give you my view on each point and why i think you've got some of the things you talked about wrong.

https://s32.postimg.org/dvrzfnfbp/la_dd_please_dont_bring_your_crying_baby_to_my_r.jpg

## The Whiners
It's true, many people on Steemit are voicing their frustration over what they perceive to be unfair payouts. While i do think that there are probably some people out there who need to put in some effort before they go out and voice their frustrations i also think that some people are rightfully observing an unfortunate feature of this platform.

I believe that you, and those who fully share your opinion, are making a crucial mistake by blatantly brushing these voices off as a bunch of whiny cry babies who are probably all western and therefore must be unfamiliar with the concepts of perseverance and persistency. You see, it just so happens that these 'whiners' are supposed to be Steemit's future user base. Any platform, still in beta, that does not take the voices of its user base serious either directly through language or objective data analysis is making a huge mistake.

The perceived fairness of this platform is a huuuuuge deal for its future growth. What do you think the conversations at Steemit's headquarters will be about if statistics suddenly show that the majority of newly created accounts become inactive after a few weeks of use? Massive disillusionment in Steemit's perceived fairness is a BIG problem, and shouldn't be viewed as: Oh well, these guys are just all a bunch of whiny lil' Joe's.

https://s31.postimg.org/51w3z3erf/Empty_pockets_broke.jpg

## The Haves And Have Nots
It's quite easy to talk about or to minimise racism when you've never been victimized by it. Similarly it is easy for one to brush of other people's frustrations concerning payouts when every post you bang out generates a couple of hundreds at minimum. Being on the other side of the spectrum sometimes won't allow you to place yourself in that position, and i think you should recognise that.

Every post that i've read so far concerning this problem always deviates at some point into dispensing tips and how to's. Utilise markdown! Create a new niche! Use better images! The fact is that many people have tried every trick in the book and came to the obvious conclusion that non of these guarantee you anything. Every single soul on this platform who is somewhat familiar with its inner workings knows very well what the deal is: You need the biggest creatures in the ocean on your side.

There's a good reason why, in the early days (just couple of months ago :) ) @dan and @ned single handedly upvoted many newcomers to the platform. Their voting power was an instant warm welcome for many, including myself. If that hadn't been the case, i'm not sure how i would've perceived Steemit today. Many things have been written already about the massive influence of whales, some positive, others overwhelmingly negative.

My personal position on this subject is, for now, still a neutral one. I should educate myself more on te inner workings of Steemit before voicing a thorough opinion on this but what i do know is that many newcomers are perceiving this system as unfair, and i can't emphasise enough how much we (specifically the people running Steemit) need to take that perception serious.

https://s32.postimg.org/pcdzc6291/map_africa1.png

## The Curious Case Of @infovore
Throughout your post you alluded to the "fall and get back up no matter what" mentality which you graciously attribute to those in developing countries. As opposed to the "i came out of bed so give me a medal" mentality which, according to you is ubiquitous among those in developed nations. To exemplify this notion you refer to the story of Infovore, an African who recently stated that Steemit transformed his life from living on 1$ a day to accumulating over $41k.

You do however realise that this is the internet? In other words an African boy could in reality be a dude named Jimmy typing from a couch in North Dakota. Now let me be absolutely clear, **I AM NOT SAYING THAT INFOVORE'S STORY ISN'T REAL.** What i am saying is that a picture with a person holding a piece of paper that has a date and Steemit written on it is by no means irrefutable evidence of one's true identity. Therefore i think that you shouldn't be so quick to point at this as a posterchild of how Steemians ought to be. Aside from that i also want to add that this bold comparison between these two mentalities is a largely erroneous generalisation.

## The 30k Make-Up Bonanza.
I won't spend much time on this but i do want to mention just a few things about @guerrint massively high grossing make-up tutorial which many people perceived to be unfair. I personally appreciate @guerrint work, she is currently working towards popularising the platform by going on the streets and telling people about Steemit!

I personally think this is awesome! I follow her work and as a person who is quite heavily involved in video production i will continue to give her tips on how she can improve her video work. Now there's many things that can be said about the content that she produces but to say that it is well scripted and thought out... You might as well start calling me Stino Kubrick. Again, i appreciate her work but one can simply not say that the subject matter or cinematography corresponds with those kind of payouts.

https://s31.postimg.org/rb5wbe4dn/chris_rock.gif

## In Conclusion.
Unfortunately, i believe that people voicing their frustrations about payouts on Steemit will not go away any time soon. In fact, i believe that as Steemit grows, so will the negative reactions of people using it. While there isn't much any of us can do about that, we can however choose how we deal with these reactions. I believe that dismissing these comments as mere childish or whiny isn't the best way of approaching this.

Lets not forget that Steemit is still an experiment albeit a working one, we are still in the early stages of what is hopefully to become the dominant socio-crypto force on the internet. We all love this place, and want it to succeed, therefore we need to be knowledgeable about the motivation of its users to come, but most of all stay here.

**We want everyone to be part of this family.**

Congratulations to you and your little girl on receiving those medals! Yet another example of where hard work and perseverance can take you.

Stay up Gee!

@stino-san

#steem #steemit
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@putradham ·
very good post
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@j8son ·
loud and clear sir. sounds like some motivation for newbie. following! stino kubrick kinda cool name tho! 😂
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@fiveboringgames ·
One person's entertaining post is another's proof that society is ending.

live and let live i say
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@stino-san ·
Please elaborate
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@marius19 ·
very good post :))stino-san
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@cryptogee ·
$1.07
First let me say that I have spoken to @infovore on Slack and from our conversations, the geographical and cultural knowledge he displays. Convinces me 100% that he is real.

Secondly, I was specifically talking to these people who come on here, post a few links, or copy and paste a couple of articles and then start whining about not getting a big enough payout.

Then there is the second kind of new person, who is writing articles that are quite frankly, not very good. They are the worst, because they hate all of the tutorials, but need them the most.

It just got to a point, where I was getting pretty sick of these people coming here and expecting to instantly make money, posting the kind of crap they post on Facebook.

Lastly, I can understand someone who is putting out original content and it's good, but aren't getting recognised. But as I said in the article, those people don't tend to complain.

Those people end up being in Spotlight and Top 10s and what have you, because they deserve the recognition.

I actually saw people on Slack, saying it was "ridiculous" that the whales vote up certain writers, and then moaning that they weren't on the list. I went to their blogs and they were terrible, these are the kinds of people I am addressing my post to.

They expect to show up and get the medal of being on a preferred writers list, when they can't even string a coherent sentence together.

Every post I make, I think to myself, maybe this is the one that will mark the end of my popularity. I take nothing for granted and expect to be out in the cold at anytime.

If that happens, I won't moan, I won't complain, I'll try and get back on track and if I can't, I'll pull up my socks and say, well I tried, time to move on.

*CG*
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@cryptoiskey ·
HERE HERE!...claps...you hit the nail on the head and hopefully it sank deep in the wood for everyone.
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@jsteck ·
I've seen a bunch of the 'first kind' that keep posting a few words or a link specifically meant to make a buck as opposed to adding value.
I keep getting reminded of a particular book and the endless search for Quality. It's out there. Here's hoping it won't always take a whale to shine light on it.
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@stino-san ·
Thanks for your reply Gee!
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@cryptoiskey ·
This is exactly the cross referencing we need on here to become an unstoppable knowledge force. There will always be a great post that can be powered up in a  beneficial way for all....Great work.
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