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I wouldn't agree that Steem is more centralized than facebook and youtube. That's just not true. Those sites are literally owned by one company. aren't open-sourced, and show little-to-no care about the community needs nor desires. Steem is levels above all that. Steemit Inc. doesn't "own" Steem. They just are the figure-heads, so to speak, and have a lot of sway in discussions. Having sway is a lot different [ *and far better imo* ] than having ownership. But, again, as for the mainstream thing, what I'm questioning in this post is whether or not we **want** to be mainstream. You bring up Linux not being where it is today, but the video linked above argues that where Linux is today **is** an issue. So, perhaps it's a good thing we're different, right?
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The steem blockchain is literally owned by one company. worse, one man with the biggest stake shutting down anybody he doesnt like, deciding/defining everything as he sees fit. Its not a mere sway when all 'dapps' rely on 1 big delegator and 1 downvote can nullify a post. While zucks is biased politically he doesnt go around on a personal vendetta against so many users like ned does. I hate fb but consider the size of the entire steem community, proportionally ned censors way more content than fb does. It is for your reasons why i say steem has potential. But right now decentralization on steem is just a marketting term.
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Oh, I guess I'm just out of the loop. I haven't really ever heard much controversy covering ned censoring anyone. Usually its about a handful of other whales downvoting and getting into flag-wars. Are there any examples that you remember of ned fucking someone over? Also, the Steem blockchain is literally not owned by anyone. Its open-sourced. Anybody can fork and redistribute it. Not to mention how the witness's are the ones who decide on which code to adapt to and allow. You can't truly "own" something if: - A: anyone can take that thing and run their own instance of it - B: most of your proposals have to go through a third-party pool of deciders before they're implemented
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Yes in theory. Thats not what im arguing against. In simple terms steem is more like a small puddle owned by a frog. If youre the only frog and everyone else is a fly, you own it.
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berniesanders, dan, sircork, popcorn, idelivershit, good person tokens.. a few examples to point out here. and there're no proposals when it comes to ned. remember hf20. steem doesn't have enough attention to create a competition for the best witnesses. what you said would be true if we had at least 10mil active users and hundreds (if not tens of thousands) of real whales that are bigger than ned. but the fact this blockchain has code that allows one person to dictate others through downvoting, you're giving too much power to any individual no matter how benevolent he may be. humans are always corrupted.
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This may be of interest, I've been flagged by this bot, in mere seconds after 19 flags by Ned on a single comment thread with him. By the way, the audience, was clearly with me on that one. *Taking a look at @blacklist-a's profile* ***This is bot use many factors based on time and flags from serious members of the steemit community. A Flag from this bot stop other bots from auto-voting your post.*** *Immediately a few questions spring to mind!* *Who are the 'serious members'?* *Which 'other bots'?* source: https://steemit.com/steemit/@abh12345/are-you-on-the-steemit-blacklist @blacklist *Version 1.0.0.0* *The Steemit @Blacklist uses a range of metrics to determine who's a repeat offender of plagiarism, hate speech, bullying, ongoing power-abuse and so on. The Blacklist is computer-generated and is updated irregularly to make sure bad behaving accounts get a quick flag so that other upvote-bots can avoid upvoting the blacklisted accounts and simply skip to the next post. The @blacklist-project is a much wider and further stretching authority than any of the singular up or downvoting guilds currently running on steemit, it is also complimentary to current projects in the same genre which are to keep the steem-blockchain unattractive for scammers, spammers and miserable trolls who are caught bullying or go after steemians in a power-abusive behaviour and so forth and so on.* *The @blacklist account is a very serious project who aim to grow over the years with supporting bots and guilds respecting the black flag as the black flag is computer-generated by a popular opinion from a wide range of always active members of the community.* *There are one way to get off the blacklist once you are on it, and that is to change your behavior from evil to good over your next 40 posts. Once you have reached that number you must send 40 STEEM to the @blacklist account with "REVIEW" in the memo. Someone from our staff will then manually look at your blog within the next 24-48 hours and remove you from the list if your account now qualifies for it.* *The Blacklist contains between 200-500 accounts at any given time. The list grows or shrinks depending on user behavior (1) and user-reaction (2). RAW Paste Data* source: https://pastebin.com/h1unSks2 source of source: https://steemit.com/steemit/@revostrike/who-are-blacklist-and-blacklist-a-and-why-they-re-flagging-my-posts Now, go down this rabbit hole: 1. Szymon Lapinski Aka Gandalf works for http://www.syncad.com 2. Daniel Notestein aka blocktrades is the founder of http://www.syncad.com 3. Daniel Notestein and Stan Larimer Could be friends 4. most of the initial bitshares code is also written by syncad guys 5. Other folks http://www.syncad.com/Services_Site/aboutus.html 6. http://www.syncad.com/manateam.htm 7. https://www.sbir.gov/sbirsearch/detail/1466795 and check this out: https://fuk.io/exclusive-interview-with-dan-notestein-of-blocktrades/ Just a little look behind the curtains for you guys... Cheers, @SirCork Member. your no bullshit witness team, @noblewitness
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