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>It's the result of years, decades, and centuries of manipulation It's the result of years, decades, and centuries of ~~manipulation~~ observation. FTFY >Before you know it, sexism means hiring a more qualified male employee, instead of a less qualified female employee. No, it remains hiring male employees regardless of female employees' qualifications. >And similarly, the adverse reaction remains, but the definition of the word changes from touching someone to merely flirting at a bar. Again, no. No one calls flirting harassment, it becomes harassment when you *keep* bothering a girl after she's told you no already. The manipulation you're seeing here comes from Conservatives, who complain about situations the words *don't* mean in order to make it seem as though liberals are over-reaching.
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There's no way you can actually believe that. I'm sorry to say, but you are factually incorrect in your statements. Sexual harassment has been called "anything a woman considers sexual harassment". And, of course, can mean absolutely anything. No way the definition for something that serious should be that loose. Also, male dominance in work places, and certain fields, is complained about all the time. Even though women themselves don't show as much interest in said fields. It's blamed on sexism all the time.
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Calling something a fact doesn't make it a fact. I've personally hit on women at bars and never been accused of harassment. Finding a couple feminazis who overreach doesn't mean anything, we can all cherry pick examples of the other side going too far. Pretending all liberals think flirting is harassment is no different than accusing all conservatives of being Nazis. The "sexism" part of women not being in other fields is a lot more complicated than you make it sound; but it mostly has to do with the harassment women get when trying to enter those fields. And I don't mean just sexual harassment. It's interesting, actually, that you start off saying conservatives manipulate words then go on to rant only about conservatives. It's a good propaganda technique, to make yourself sound fair and balanced while you actually only attack the other side. The bottom line here is that you're engaging in exactly what I'm talking about: Arguing against a definition that doesn't exist, to make it seem like the other side is manipulating the definition.
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Generalizing purely from your own experiences is a common logical fallacy. Just because Person A hasn't experienced something, doesn't mean said something doesn't exist, period. I believe you meant to say that I focused on liberals? Yes, I focused on them because their re-definitions of words like sexism and racism are such blatant examples of what I was talking about.
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>it becomes harassment when you keep bothering a girl after she's.... That's a sexist statement. Assumption of gender roles? Or it's not - because the vast number of cases _is_ males harassing female. Of course - that being the case- You are also saying the sexes are different, ergo not equal.... Pesky logic...
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No, we were discussing a specific situation @schattenjaeger brought up. If a man said no and the woman kept bothering him it would also be harassment. In fact if any person says they don't want to talk to you and you keep pressuring them to talk it is harassment.
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So a person can decide - at anytime - if they are being harassed or not ? If someone is talking to them, (no matter what is being said), the recipient of the words can choose to be a victim at any point? "I'm a victim, I'm a victim!", kind of thing...? seriously?
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