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Hello Stellabelle, I have to disagree about @misbenkito ( If I don't want people to know where I am from I would write I am from Europe.. Not I am from France) So a Korean or Chinese or Japanese not wanting you to know her identity would of course use the term I am Asian. And I strongly dis-agree with this You have to make an introduction post. I ano not planning to do an introduction post, as I like my privacy and don't want the whole internet so know my real identity. (especially as everything is in the blockchain here) But thanks for the Article, I had missed Yogi's epic post about mrs. takings!
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permlink | re-stellabelle-artificial-intelligence-has-made-usd21-307-in-blogging-rewards-what-is-the-future-of-ai-on-steemit-20160915t194800315z |
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@knozaki2015 thank you so much for protecting me, I do not think that I'm "that' famous to be mentioned here lol. I am an Asian and I'd love to eat, I think it's fair enough since I dont really want to show my identity to the whole world, why must I? Its funny article @stellabelle, I have nothing to explain but one word "you're FUNNY" :D
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how about doing the standard holding up a steemit sign like all the other newbies are forced to do?
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that's exactly the point. why would anybody have to hold this sign and show their faces? You are doing secret writer posts for people who want / need to stay anonymous, yet you ask someone to reveal their identity. If you didn't hear, "asians" are very shy ( at least that;s my experience living over 30years in asia) And I didn't know that newbie are forced to do an introduction post. what a scandal ;)
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I have to ask you, why MUST I? You dont have the right to ask me to do that sign, i dont have an introduce myself post because I just dont want to (im not that kind of person who says much about herself in pubilc), im here just to express my food passion to foodholics just like me. And Im very happy that I had a chance to know some great food reporters here, for example @knozaki2015. Please dont mention my name as A ROBOt, and english is not my mother language, therefore sometimes it becomes "weird" (as you say), but its not my fault lol. I will try to improve my english so that it's not weird anymore, is it okay ? Once again, we're not forced to prove ourselves here, Its up to us whether we want to show who we are. Some people claimed that they are someone famous, these people may have to write that "steemit sign", Im not claiming anything but only "i love food, i am an asian" so why must I have to post my picture if I dont want to???
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I never held up a sign, and nobody has ever once questioned my personhood or my claimed identity.
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I never held up a sign either. The holding up a sign thing is worse than useless. Just pay a model $5 to do it. If we need to authenticate people vs whatever, then have them validate against their other social media account. It's about content. It doesn't matter who specifically the author is. If you really feel like someone is being overpaid, let the whales know and ask them why they are paying this much for bad content.
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How about you stop harassing users to hold up pointless signs? Thanks.
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>forced lol no one is forced to verify anything, I thought that has been obvious since the start and a big part of decentralization. Even in [my post](https://steemit.com/newcomers/@acidyo/what-verifying-your-account-in-introduceyourself-means-and-what-it-doesn-t-necessarily-have-to-mean) that I created as a newbie here I made it clear no one has to verify their account, but if they want to and gain trust that way as a user of the platform, then my post would help them how to properly do it. Were you forced to post your phone number on a public slack channel?
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No one is forced to do that :P
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dude leave people alone
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I never exactly said that you were AI. I merely stated that your English varies from advanced to low. The writing style of the comments seems to be different from the tone of the posts. This could be for any number of reasons. I was hoping you could clear all this up with a verfified account, like Twitter, or point to some identity. By refusing to do what is asked of all Steemit users upon entering in the beginning, it seems that you're unwilling to follow protocol, which breeds suspicion. It's so easy to get this cleared up. Everyone else has to verfiy that they are a real person. That is all you need to do.
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Im sorry I will not do it just because you say people're FORCED to do. Im not forced to do anything, unless I'm willing to do it. Look around and you'll see, not all the steemians post that 'steemit board". Its your business to raise suspicion, i dont mind, Im happy to be myself and Im happy that I can express my love for cuisine here and get encouragement from other people. Why do you mention my name under the title "aritificial intelligence" if you're not implying that Im a robot? A robot can make a response like that ? I dont think so. Once again, you're very very funny girl. End of the conversation, thank you very much for making me "well-known" in a FUNNY way, I appreciate that ^^
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> Steemit is overrun by bots, auto-voting bots, AI and scammers. Linking your real other account or doing as others have been asked to do would immediately clear up the possibility of deception. Wouldn't even slow the bots down. What it would mean is that people who do not have other social media accounts and have no desire to dox ourselves or be doxxed would just go somewhere else. Problem ain't bots. Bots are owned by people, they don't just "exist". They have a cost to acquire and a cost to maintain. This cost has to be less than the bot will earn for it's owner. People will use bots because they are a force multiplier. To stop the bots you need to change the incentives so low value tasks aren't rewarded enough to cover the cost. But neither msgivings nor mibenkito are bots. Not sure I would even put these two in the same category and I have more reason than most to hate msgivings.
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>Its funny article @stellabelle, I have nothing to explain but one word "you're FUNNY" :D Actually that is two words. Why not do a verification talking or a picture with your face blurred? I feel that people should be able to vote as they wish, but accounts without a verification should not (in my opinion receive rewards as high as those with).
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How can you think that things can be solved just by a blurred picture? And what for? By making responses to this article and all the funny conments she wrote, I've shown myself enough to prove that I'm not a robot nor AI. Is that all we need here? Why keep demanding me to show my face? MAYBE I am too ugly, so it is quite embarassing to do that "verify yourself thing" ? Or if I want to hide myself, I can hire a model to pose with that steemit board and post it here, who will even know that it's me or not? It's all about "willingness" my friend, and in this situation I demand to keep my identity and my images π
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I find it odd that someone would offer up their name, but yet want to remain anonymous. That seems contradictory, actually.
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I think that 90% of the users are using a nickname, you, me, mibenkito. Or is your name really stella? I didn't know that. I am very careful online, I don't want my picture or my real name being displayed in any site where the public can easily access it... we had a similar situation last time with a whale downvoting a user, because her username was tanja, but she signed her closing with julia. the whale downvoted with the reason " suspicious, why are you using a username tanja, when your real name is julia" some user than pointed out that the whale is using a fictious name, and they asked him if his name was XXXXX, after that debate the wale removed the flag, but still I don't understand why anybody has to reveal their real identity here. If in the future you have to do a KYC for payouts, that would be ok, but being forced to reveal my identity to other users would drive me away from this platform. I started hiding my identity a long time ago, as I knew if i put one picture of my face into a social network, I am doomed. Snowden, Wikileaks, anybody not trying to keep their identity hidden while being online is a fool in my eyes. (of course I am aware, that since I am travelling many countries have a picture of me, that i can't avoid, but I can and I have decided that my own privacy is precious to me.
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"Hello Steemians, my name is Miki."
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I do agree with you. But we also have the right to be suspicious, yet most won't/are not resolved by a "introduce yourself" thingie. No, what we need is communication. And also, some people will believe whatever they want to believe :)
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https://img1.steemit.com/0x0/https://www.steemimg.com/images/2016/08/08/88f310.jpg stella, did you see this picture? you can actually see that this is an asian... yes face is not visible, but I would bet a dorian dessert with you, that these are not dyed hair, but natural asian hair...
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Stella actually thinks that a robot can make delicious cupcakes and hand out Steemit flyers on the street @knozaki2015 :D
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So, what would you suggest moving forward when we suspect the next AI account? Usually, people have some sort of other account like Twitter to verify that they are a real person. What would you suggest the next time an AI account takes over the trending pages? I use my author name. I am a professional writer, so it makes sense to use my author identity. I never claimed this account to be AI, I merely think the writing is very odd. I was curious who this person was, behind all the "i love food" persona. People generally like many things. That's what makes us human...... It has the feel of being manufactured, that's all. I might not be right about it, and I never claimed it was one thing or another. Something just doesn't seem right about it. That's all. I was hoping to get my doubts cleared up in a real, tangible way, but apparently that's not happening. I read a lot. And like I mentioned, I lived in Asia, too as an English teacher. I'm very familiar with non-native English writing, and these posts don't feel like non-native English. They feel somehow manipulated in some way. That's my honest, gut feelings. But I'm only human, so there's potential that I may be incorrect.
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I would have to agree with the anonymity premise. Not because I am somehow afraid to admit who I am, but because I donβt think this is relevant. In fact, when I joined Steemit I didn't even know I was supposed to introduce myself. Eventually, I made my intro, but not because I was forced by some rule, but because I thought it would make my posts more noticeable. Also my intro doesn't show me standing with Steemit slogan. https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@mgaft1/neither-left-nor-write-breainer We are a virtual community here and I should be judged on our ideas and writing style rather than on how we look like or what our position in the outside world is. Also, who cares where I psychically live? For all I care a person could write from prison in Congo and if their writing style is good and the content is interesting, the more power to them. I am an introvert and, most of the time, I live in my head anyhow. When it comes to AI surely this is an interesting problem. I remember even posting a response to misgivings. However, I feel the fault of this sin lies entirely on me. I did this by my free choice and if I couldnβt decipher a machine from a human then itβs a shame on me.
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I can't agree more :)
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