Discussion, debate, conversation or otherwise, they're essentially the same thing. A discussion between two people holding different opinions, within a public setting where everyone can see such as this, is a debate. So naturally, your effort to reply to my message and offer points of disagreement, amounts to the acceptance of participation in a debate. 

Now, however, rather than respond to the points I addressed, you seem only to want to avoid the discussion  you already elected yourself to be a part of when you initially responded. 

I don't want to discuss semantics. I want to discuss bidbots. For the sake of complete transparency, so that you might understand my motivations for doing this, I hope to discuss/debate  the issue of bidbots and their place on this platform with someone who is both a respected member of the community and who is for bidbots. 

My goal in this undertaking is to  arrive at one of two outcomes; either one, the other manages to convince me that it is acceptable to use bidbots. Such a philosophy would certainly help me a lot right now if I could get behind it, and so this outcome would most likely improve the quality of my life dramatically. The other potential outcome that I would prefer - given my current position, a result of my current knowledge base and understanding of that knowledge - is that I manage to successfully convince the other in the conversation, and quite publicly for all viewers to see, that vote-selling is entirely immoral and ought to have no place on this platform. This outcome would, I would hope, not only lead to my opponent's switching of positions on this issue, but many of their close followers who might also read the conversation.

You can say you have nothing to prove, but I am not asking you to do that. I have seen you say you care about this community, and so I would like to think that you do not enjoy seeing a huge divide between us that is chipping away at the sense of community that once shined so brightly here. I ask you to have this debate, discussion, or whatever the fuck you would like to call it, not to prove to me that you're not an abuser, or working for abusers. That matters to me not at all. I ask you to have this conversation with me,  either publicly or elsewhere as long as it could later be shared, because I want that sense of community returned to this platform, and I can think of no better way to accomplish that than have two Steemit users who have been here long enough to remember the family sentiment that once encapsulated this place, to work out there difference on an issue in a respectable and positive manner. 

Essentially, I want to set a better example than bickering to no productive end. If you are pro-Steemit, then you will have to explain to me why you would not want to participate in something like that?

There were some questions posed in your comment, but I care not to answer them until I know that we are having this discussion; because it seems the effort I put into my last comment has been largely ignored by you. 

If you are willing to do this, for the sake of the entire community, let me know. And if you are not, let me know that also so I know where you stand.