RE: BitShares now pays 3BTS (2x increase from previous 1.5BTS) per created block! by recursive

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· @recursive · (edited)
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Still no Steem/Bitshares merger on the agenda? Bitshares has got some great financial features and ecosystem but is sadly underrated due to its complete lack of appeal to the general public and its bad reputation in the crypto community. Steem on the other has got all the shiny and marketing momentum that Bitshares always direly lacked, but could use some better cash onramps and a more varied pegged assets universe. Given that both networks use exactly the same software stack and are designed by the same person, and have a huge overlap among the most prominent members of their respective communities and stake holders, it would be very feasible from a social perspective. IIRC, @dan was even favorable to the idea last time it was floated. It would be really awesome to have Steem support pegged CNY and BTC, user issued assets, and suddenly have plenty of gateways and bridges allowing a closer connectivity with the rest of the crypto ecosystem. And it would be awesome for Bitshares to finally meet its market and gain plenty of users instead of idling universally ignored in a corner of the Internet. I know there may still be a lot of hurt feelings from the time where Dan left the project and some resent due to the questionable way Steem was launched, but given that many of us hold stakes on both side and wish the best for both projects, it would be really great if we could avoid having to waste time and resources maintaining two projects that are so perfectly complementary that they should have been a single project in first place.
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@xeroc ·
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In some way it even goes further. At least for me, STEEM allowed me to earn some money so that I can focus on the blockchain space. It further pumped my motivation for developing things and since the launch of STEEM I learned so much that I finally have all the knowledge needed to bring some of the businesses I have planned for BitShares back into active thoughts and discussion. If it only wasn't so much regulated, a platform like Streemian.com for automation of stuff on BitShares wouldn't be difficult to build.

As for STEEM and BitShares, the both do share a common code base, but the economics and blockchain "smart contracts" (operations) are vastely different and I doubt that they can (or should) be run on the *same* blockchain. However, I think that the both changes can be brought closer together (bitcoin ecosystem calls it 'sidechaining').
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@recursive · (edited)
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Indeed a basic merge would be tricky as both projects use different pegging mechanism, different collateral requirements, different ways of managing margin calls, different reliance on market actors and incentives etc. Definitely a full merge would require a lot of refactoring on both sides. Probably not worth the trouble.

I was more thinking of running one as a sidechain of the other. Since Steem is the one that stands out the most, it would make sense to have Bitshares run as a sidechain of Steem once Steem supports sidechains. From the end user perspective, they wouldn't need to know that there are two chains. 

Actually we could even achieve the same without doing a technical merger at all by enabling crosschain atomic transactions between Steem and Bitshares, just as Zooko is trying to do between ZEC and BTC/ETH (see [project Alchemy](https://forum.z.cash/t/cross-chain-atomic-transactions-project-alchemy-stellar/13524) )

But either way, for this to be successful from a marketing perspective, Bitshares would have to operate a change of direction on how it operates its brand image from that of being an independent project / blockchain to that of being a subsystem of Steem just like Liquid and Rootstock will be subsystems of Bitcoin while remaining separate albeit deeply dependent projects. The reason that this is necessary is that end users shouldn't even realize they are using Bitshares at all. They should see XAU, USD, CNY,  BTC in their wallet as well as a bunch of tokens (UIA), and they should be able to send BTC and fiat in and out of Steem via the on/off-ramps without even realizing their transaction was routed through Bitshares, a gateway and a bridge. This is what will bring volume to Bitshares and deeper integration with the crypto ecosystem and legacy financial system to Steem while providing a seamless experience to the end users.
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