There is no definition for a real man, and even if there is, in reality there is no real man, you are a man when you stop growing physically.

That we have to do this or that to be real man is bullshit propaganda to further shame or compliment us into certain behavior. 

>REALLY! It's like how are they suppose to learn how to fight? It's not because they don't want the boys to be ANTI-Social. That's just the sales pitch they use.

We brainwash people as well, we both have the conviction that it is better to act a different way, and in my opinion it is the right thing to be a parent till they are 18.

However, there are many other people that think otherwise that think that abandoning your child to have it grow up under harsh circumstances is the right thing to do because if they survive they will be strong enough for everything life throws at them, a better education than any parent can give you.

Some also abandon crippled children in the woods because they can't afford "dead weight", some do it today and in the past as well for race hygiene.

The ancient spartans are a popular example.