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Actually, I think I'm on the same page with you. I just couldn't understand the second part. Yes, people think this is a leaderless, anarchist system, but at the same time, people who have the Steem Power have the decision power. If that's what people understand from a free, leaderless society, I pass. My last sentence was what I observed here. No one cares about what planktons do, because their actions don't matter anyway, at least financially. But everybody expects the minnows to behave well and abide by the unwritten rules. Yet again, whales are untouchable. They can get away with whatever they want, because they have the Steem, i.e. decision, Power.
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Good thoughts! It's still my opinion that anarchy and capitalism can't go hand in hand. To me that's more like liberalism. On the other side, whales are more exposed. And people are critic about their behaviour. I don't know, if that's enough to provide the self-regulation of the community. When they just don't care about critic, they can go on in what they are doing. A problem I see is that it's impossible to flag investors, who are not posting anything, but delegating their Steem Power or always voting special people up. The flag wars between @berniesanders and @haejin is a good example for that. Without @ranchorelaxo @haejin's posts wouldn't go to the moon.
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> It's still my opinion that anarchy and capitalism can't go hand in hand. I would rather have some one trading with me, (that can happen, with or without money) Or some one giving something to me, from what he own and visa versa. Than the only other option. Me stealing from some one else, (violence) and "giving" it to another (which is not giving or good i.m.o.) Or just flat out thievery Or to say it another way; giving is a capitalistic deed (you give something that is yours, that you earned or got gifted in an honest way) Trading with or without money is also a capitalistic deed (when there's no violence or theft. You also need the option to not make a trade and go somewhere else or make it yourself) All collectevist system's (socialistic, democratic, communistic) take something with violence or the threat or violence, from some one else and "give" it to another. That is all it does, has done, and ever will do) It's not charity, it's not giving. It's a thieving system under the guise of being a charity. Another small example. If someone that call's himself a socialist that lives under a socialistic system is giving something that he earned or got fairly or made, to someone than that's not a socialistic deed, but a capitalistic deed, it's capitalism So i.m.h.o. capitalism and anarchy are the only way to get the best result of a peaceful living together. Theft and violence (a.k.a. national or international socialism democratic or else.......plus anarchy? ..........nah not so good :) These are of course my thoughts. :)
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A question I have asked myself is: will anarchy automatically lead to capitalism? I start to believe that maybe both aren't something like a system. But more like the essence of all human effort. It's all connected. We want to be free. We need money to be free. We only can get money from the community. We can't be free without the community? So it is good to give something back to the community? With everybody understanding these connections, I think, we would have a pretty cool society! :-) Maybe one in which we could even leave all these terms behind us.
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The question I have about anarchy and libertarianism is how do you plan to solve the security problem without collecting taxes and maintaining an army?
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>A problem I see is that it's impossible to flag investors, who are not posting anything, but delegating their Steem Power or always voting special people up. The flag wars between @berniesanders and @haejin is a good example for that. Without @ranchorelaxo @haejin's posts wouldn't go to the moon. I agree with you on that one, but I'm not so much bothered that much about abuse anymore. First, I'm using my 10 votes a day, which means abusers can't abuse my Steem Power. They are abusing the Steem Power of people who vote less than 10 votes a day. Second, I have already proposed a solution to abuse problem. It received some feedback. If that solution is implemented, the abuse as it is happening now will not be possible in the future. If it is not implemented, then it is the problem of the people who don't use their daily 10 voting rights. And frankly, even though Steemit is an interesting project, it's not the only platform. There are a lot of other credible platforms and ways to monetize your content, if you want to.
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> First, I'm using my 10 votes a day, which means abusers can't abuse my Steem Power. They are abusing the Steem Power of people who vote less than 10 votes a day. Good point! I haven't seen it this way yet! Calming thought! Looking forward to what is being implemented! :-)
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I have a hard time voting less than ten posts/comments a day.
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In so far it's anarchic (anarchic systems don't exist, but you can have systems in an anarchical world) that there are no rulers that can force you to do anything. To call them leaders............. I don't know. Steemit is a, or is like a, company.... social media. (but they are not you boss either) They could any time remove the monetary aspect from the posts (I guess) and continue like a sort of facebook or twitter or so (I'm not familiar with other social media) What happens with reward pool "rape" is maybe built in, but then again If you are on instagram, you get nothing. There is not even a reward pool to be "raped". I edited in some komma's etc. to make it better readable :)
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Actually, I'm advocating to get rid of the reward pool system and introduce a tipping system. I've discussed the mathematics of the reward pool abuse with some brilliant people. The conclusion I came to is, that reward pool abuse in the current system can be mathematically proven to exist. There's no way around it. The only way around the abuse is to replace it with the tipping system. If you are a Steem Power investor and you don't want your share of the reward pool to be abused, vote at least ten times every day.
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