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First of all, I think all three are strong considerations for a token name, but my vote would still be for CRED. Btw, I'm not sure what you meant meant further up when you previously mentioned it as "cartoonist". For me, MOSH seems to naturally lend itself to music / video streaming (which seemed to gain favour some months ago) with its playful, kinetic and disruptive presence, and KNOL for the encyclopaedia / Q&A app (it also struck me that KNOL can also be interpreted as "knoll", a small hill or mound, suggesting being able to see above your surroundings to improve knowledge). However, neither lend themselves to being pluralised without sounding awkward, unlike CRED. I can see your reasoning over wanting something that is "*...more expressive of the paradigmatic shift...*" but am not sure how many future users might be swayed by that consideration. "Uber" doesn't have any apparent connection with a paradigmatic shift in the manner of hailing taxis, but it's a cool word (and font) that people quickly took to. My wife thought KNOL and MOSH both sounded more masculine, but CRED as neutral.
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I appreciate this feedback. > However, neither lend themselves to being pluralised without sounding awkward, unlike CRED. Iâm not so sure about that, âpay me 432 knol please.â Implying paying 423 knowledge, because knowledge is plural. Ditto **`mosh`**. Itâs a bit weird though, although this is arguably less weird, âpay me 432 mĂsh please.â > "Uber" doesn't have any apparent connection with a paradigmatic shift in the manner of hailing taxis, but it's a cool word (and font) that people quickly took to. Itâs abstract. It didnât have anything to do with taxis before. Whereas, **`cred`** may associate with credit, which is the negative vibe in this global sovereign debt collapse that will be ongoing for the next decade and cause a lot of pain worldwide. Or maybe people will happy they can still get some credit. > My wife thought KNOL and MOSH both sounded more masculine, but CRED as neutral. Yeah that is what I originally thought also. > Btw, I'm not sure what you meant meant further up when you previously mentioned it as "cartoonist". C.f. the âStreet Credâ(ibility) logos on this blog. I like **`knol`** because it can be both the main website name and the token name combined. Less confusion. That can be about blogs, discussion forums, Q & A, and Wikipedia clone. But maybe people will think knowledge is boring, not fun, and stay away. My latest blog is emphasizing the knowledge age transformation: https://steemit.com/blockchain/@anonymint/jesus-bitcoin-is-somewhat-sovereign-democracy-not The concept would be that the more you use the site, the more **`knol`** (i.e. knowledge) you accumulate (both in your head and in **`knol`** tokens). Also it would be neato to take Googleâs expired formerly trademarked name idea and use it to disintermediate Google with, lol. Most Millennials probably don't even remember Googleâs Knol. > KNOL can also be interpreted as "knoll", a small hill or mound, suggesting being able to see above your surroundings to improve knowledge) Makes me think of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGwfznkfzYU Also: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nibiru_(Babylonian_astronomy)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nibiru_(Babylonian_astronomy)) A place of refuge outside the mainstream economy. Something abstract and âfeel goodâ might align us better with Millennials. I need to overcome my age and my aspiration expressed in my most recent blog linked above and put my marketing cap on. Donât moralize in marketing. Sell what your users want. Thereâs lots of interesting terms in the Babylonian language: http://www.assyrianlanguages.org/akkadian/list.php Thereâs [ebiru](http://www.assyrianlanguages.org/akkadian/dosearch.php?searchkey=eb%C4%93ru+%281%29&language=rawakkadian) meaning to cross to the other side. More idea lists: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fantasy_worlds https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planets_in_science_fiction http://www.dungeoneering.net/d100-list-fantasy-town-names/
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Out of interest, how do Filipinos get on pronouncing KNOL; any problem with the KN? I guess once heard then it's not an issue. WRT pluaralising, I realise that grammatically KNOL and MOSH are both plural and singular, but I can perhaps forsee many users trying to say "KNOLS" or "MOSHES". Dunno for sure. Needs a wider sample group. Might not be an issue. > cred may associate with credit, which is the negative vibe in this global sovereign debt collapse that will be ongoing for the next decade and cause a lot of pain worldwide. Or maybe people will happy they can still get some credit. A tricky one to call. Could go either way. But maybe not a deal breaker for CRED on that score alone though? > Also it would be neato to take Googleâs expired formerly trademarked name idea and use it to disintermediate Google with, lol. Absolutely! Am falling asleep now, so will read your latest blog post tomorrow and get back.
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>The concept would be that the more you use the site, the more knol (i.e. knowledge) you accumulate (both in your head and in knol tokens). Yes, I get it. > Donât moralize in marketing. Sell what your users want Agree. Btw, I read the "Jesus Bitcoin..." blog and [commented](https://steemit.com/blockchain/@anonymint/jesus-bitcoin-is-somewhat-sovereign-democracy-not#@quillfiller/re-anonymint-jesus-bitcoin-is-somewhat-sovereign-democracy-not-20180920t221025139z) beneath it.
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I have entirely ruled out the name **`mosh`**. It doesnât convey anything really and can be confused with âsay what? Moss?â and mush. Thatâs essentially reiterating my original stance when I wrote this blog. I also agree that the meaning of **`knol`** is not as obvious. Also itâs not as apropos. Veracity and credibility is really the general attribute that **`cred`** tokens will represent, because essentially accumulation of tokens is going to be a function of how many decentralized curators rank your contributions highly, leading to more page views and thus more income. I was hoping to have a main app and site name which matches the token name, but so far am unable to. Iâm not even convinced that Knol is a good app name. Iâm brainstorming site names and trying to think of one that conveys that divergent opinions are not censored. Also still trying to capture the concept of escaping from the [creeping totalitarianism](https://steemit.com/blockchain/@anonymint/jesus-bitcoin-is-somewhat-sovereign-democracy-not). Also wanting to stand out (be memorable) from the crowd of vanilla site names. I am also interested in the theme of technologically crashing through borders and barriers. I would like to capture the notion of a permanent archive with no dead links forming in the future. I would also like to capture the open data notion that everything (not encrypted nor marked with copyright) is editable and there can exist multiple versions of any document â everything can be forked. My best ânewâ idea thus far is: * **Hyperdata** - <sup><sub>registered `.app`, `.me`, `.us` and `hyper-data` (`.net` and `.org`); `.com`, `.net` and `.org` not in use</sub></sup> After Bitnet, I had adopted the name idea of Hypermesh (even posted to `bitcointalk.org` as username Hyperme.sh which was a domain I registered), but I abandoned that idea because it really didnât convey any benefit to the user. I canât remember if I thought of hyperdata at that prior juncture. Hyperdata is better than _opendata_ because it can be a superset of open data (i.e. doesnât force data to be unencrypted with permissive license). More descriptive of benefits than _datasphere_. More generalized benefits than _wikify_. Fewer problematic connotations than _richdata_ and _transdata_. So Hyperdata would supplant all the prior name ideas (other than the token name **`cred`**). Thus perhaps `blog.hyperdata.org`, `wiki.hyperdata.org`, `debate.hyperdata.org`, `video.hyperdata.org`, `music.hyperdata.org`, `archive.hyperdata.org`, etc.. P.S. I also like the [`debate.org` concept](https://www.debate.org/debates/It-is-beyond-a-reasonable-doubt-that-flight-77-hit-the-Pentagon/1/) for an app, wherein two debaters go against each other and everyone else is allowed to post comments. --- **EDIT:** I will elaborate on my logic for choosing Hyperdata. A descriptive name is best because it will cause nearly every demographic to contemplate that thereâs some technological innovation to be curious about. Whereas, my prior name ideas such as Knol, Jot, Stor not only donât have a clear statement of utility for all demographics (e.g. knoll is a hill for Americans yet itâs meaningless for Asians), theyâre also lost in the sea of already popular metaphoric website names such as Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat, Kik. So âwhy is my data hyper?â is a superior reaction and branding as compared to âwhat is knol (or why on a hill) and btw what did you say?â Or superior to âStor what or jot what, and what for?â They already store and jot on their existing social media sites, so thereâs no differentiation.
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