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@edicted is making a point that is logical. The reality is that most people's posts don't get anywhere near 20 STEEM without bidbots. That's just a cold hard reality. This change is making bidbots more necessary for content producers.
| post_id | 79,371,773 |
|---|---|
| author | hobo.media |
| permlink | pwph1z |
| category | hf21 |
| json_metadata | {"tags":["hf21"],"users":["edicted"],"app":"steemit\/0.1"} |
| created | 2019-08-23 20:03:36 |
| last_update | 2019-08-23 20:03:36 |
| depth | 4 |
| children | 20 |
| net_rshares | 119,695,089,710 |
| last_payout | 2019-08-30 20:03:36 |
| cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
| total_payout_value | 0.011 SBD |
| curator_payout_value | 0.010 SBD |
| pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
| promoted | 0.000 SBD |
| body_length | 234 |
| author_reputation | 21,765,957,547,111 |
| root_title | "Hardfork 21 is HAPPENING. What will change?" |
| beneficiaries | [] |
| max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 SBD |
| percent_steem_dollars | 0 |
| author_curate_reward | "" |
| voter | weight | wgt% | rshares | pct | time |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| myklovenotwar | 0 | 16,223,649,745 | 100% | ||
| jbgarrison72 | 0 | 2,838,063,294 | 100% | ||
| lordneroo | 0 | 3,290,377,016 | 6% | ||
| drutter | 0 | 1,129,580,919 | 1% | ||
| cyemela | 0 | 19,943,953,927 | 100% | ||
| phage93 | 0 | 17,267,868,295 | 30% | ||
| inici-arte | 0 | 4,393,182,163 | 100% | ||
| hobo.media | 0 | 41,272,978,658 | 4% | ||
| barbarabezina | 0 | 11,607,562,065 | 100% | ||
| thepen | 0 | 1,300,230,531 | 100% | ||
| krecikdwamiljony | 0 | 427,643,097 | 100% |
It wasn't always like this. Hardly anyone reaches that level because so much stake is bound up in bid bots. If we can return much of that SP to manually curate content and also build a new culture where people vote to bring value to Steem then it is absolutely possible for more creators to start earning those levels of rewards once again.
| post_id | 79,372,029 |
|---|---|
| author | fredrikaa |
| permlink | pwphlo |
| category | hf21 |
| json_metadata | {"tags":["hf21"],"app":"steemit\/0.1"} |
| created | 2019-08-23 20:15:24 |
| last_update | 2019-08-23 20:15:24 |
| depth | 5 |
| children | 19 |
| net_rshares | -31,477,248,446 |
| last_payout | 2019-08-30 20:15:24 |
| cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
| total_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
| curator_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
| pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
| promoted | 0.000 SBD |
| body_length | 340 |
| author_reputation | 127,187,503,965,069 |
| root_title | "Hardfork 21 is HAPPENING. What will change?" |
| beneficiaries | [] |
| max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 SBD |
| percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
| author_curate_reward | "" |
| voter | weight | wgt% | rshares | pct | time |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| smidge-tv | 0 | -33,295,070,432 | -100% | ||
| pokerm | 0 | 1,817,821,986 | 100% |
No the cold hard reality is that new people will loose interest before they even know how it all works. What they should have done is make post with higher value on it reduce the gain. And those with lower votes gain more. That is logic. Now they are kissing up to high sp people.
| post_id | 79,372,593 |
|---|---|
| author | zoef |
| permlink | pwpihc |
| category | hf21 |
| json_metadata | {"tags":["hf21"],"app":"steemit\/0.1"} |
| created | 2019-08-23 20:34:24 |
| last_update | 2019-08-23 20:34:24 |
| depth | 6 |
| children | 18 |
| net_rshares | 32,341,544,623 |
| last_payout | 2019-08-30 20:34:24 |
| cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
| total_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
| curator_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
| pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
| promoted | 0.000 SBD |
| body_length | 280 |
| author_reputation | 23,263,050,671,536 |
| root_title | "Hardfork 21 is HAPPENING. What will change?" |
| beneficiaries | [] |
| max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 SBD |
| percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
| author_curate_reward | "" |
| voter | weight | wgt% | rshares | pct | time |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| jbgarrison72 | 0 | 2,780,478,957 | 100% | ||
| lordneroo | 0 | 3,286,823,171 | 6% | ||
| ricbo | 0 | 123,083,575 | 100% | ||
| sandyspictures | 0 | 1,481,855,777 | 100% | ||
| indigoocean | 0 | 21,772,149,976 | 10% | ||
| beingtheuniverse | 0 | 2,479,017,432 | 100% | ||
| krecikdwamiljony | 0 | 418,135,735 | 100% |
> No the cold hard reality is that new people will loose interest before they even know how it all works. We can't know this until we've seen how things play out. But I agree that it is a fair concern that smaller users, communities, and comments in general may suffer. However, stakeholders can choose to avoid this if they want. We for instance build our curation system on @steempress to add support behind a large number of curation projects. So that smaller users who write original content and get engagement from others can quite easily reach 20 Steem in total post rewards. Speaking for Steem in general, a lot rests on the assumption that a significant amount of the stake currently delegated to bid bots will go back towards manual curation, as well as downvotes returning rewards from vote farmers to proper users.
| post_id | 79,372,760 |
|---|---|
| author | fredrikaa |
| permlink | pwpiqw |
| category | hf21 |
| json_metadata | {"tags":["hf21"],"users":["steempress"],"app":"steemit\/0.1"} |
| created | 2019-08-23 20:40:09 |
| last_update | 2019-08-23 20:41:18 |
| depth | 7 |
| children | 17 |
| net_rshares | 20,728,666,882 |
| last_payout | 2019-08-30 20:40:09 |
| cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
| total_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
| curator_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
| pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
| promoted | 0.000 SBD |
| body_length | 829 |
| author_reputation | 127,187,503,965,069 |
| root_title | "Hardfork 21 is HAPPENING. What will change?" |
| beneficiaries | [] |
| max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 SBD |
| percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
| author_curate_reward | "" |
| voter | weight | wgt% | rshares | pct | time |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| zoef | 0 | 31,626,788,252 | 50% | ||
| smidge-tv | 0 | -32,629,273,934 | -100% | ||
| indigoocean | 0 | 21,731,152,564 | 10% |