RE: Dear Justin Sun – My open letter to you! by logiczombie

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hive-114105 · @logiczombie · Mar 17 '20 (edited)

It shouldn't matter how "untrustworthy" any account holder is deemed.

The rules should never be changed with the express purpose of targeting any specific account(s).

With this precedent, should we start freezing the accounts of "abusive" "spammers" like those with negative rep and marked with 3+ blacklists?  Why not?  Haven't they also been branded as "untrustworthy"?

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@free-reign · Mar 16 '20

Let me clear up my position on using the word "untrustworthy" by considering the context in which I used it.

Concerning steem account holders, the *only* account that I've said is untrustworthy, is Justin Sun's.  *Why* do I say he's untrustworthy?  It's because I've heard him talk like he wants to do this and that, he claims to not want to control governance over the blockchain and he wants to increase steem value.

Then, soon after he says such things, he goes right back on the attack.  Now he's trying to destroy the Dapps, removing delegations from the developers so he can continue to battle us.

You need to understand that I and MOST steemians now want nothing to do with Mr. Sun.  He can now bathe in his stupidity for failing to exercise the most basic principles of honesty and forthrightness, rather than childish attacks.  We now have a path that doesn't include him or TRON.

All I can tell you is that if you think Justin is such a great person, you can certainly move to his TRON community and shitcoin, if you aren't already there, which I suspect you are since a small number of TRONians are like the *only* people saying positive things about Justin at this point in this situation.

He blew it.

👍 logiczombie

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@logiczombie · Mar 17 '20 (edited)

The rules should never be changed with the express purpose of targeting any specific account(s).
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Do you agree or disagree with this statement?
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Attempting to dodge the question of PRINCIPLES by feebly rushing-to-disqualify my sincere questions, clumsily painting me as "a friend of thine enemy" is nothing but a naked ad hominem attack.

### The rules should never be changed with the express purpose of targeting any specific account(s).
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Do you agree or disagree with this statement?
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Do you stand by your PRINCIPLES or do you just change the rules because someone made contradictory statements?
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With this precedent, should we start freezing the accounts of "abusive" "spammers" like those with negative rep and marked with 3+ blacklists? Why not? Haven't they also been branded as "untrustworthy"?
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Isn't it "the community's" responsibility to FREEZE all accounts of "evil" and or "undesirable" and or "untrustworthy" individuals?
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Isn't it "the community's" responsibility to FREEZE all accounts of people who insist on COHERENT PRINCIPLES (because only an evil person would insist on such a thing)?

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@free-reign · Mar 17 '20

I'm going to explain this once more and that's all.

In my post, the title of which is ***"Dear Justin Sun - My Open Letter To You,"*** it is obvious that I was writing about Justin Sun. The title clearly makes him the ***target*** of the post, since it is a letter ***addressed*** to him.

As one of my criticisms of Mr. Sun, I expressed my opinion that Mr. Sun is untrustworthy.

### ***You have lazer-focused on that and are trying to make it into something other than me simply expressing my opinion that Justin Sun is untrustworthy.***

To ME he *is* untrustworthy, or do you purport to instruct ME on what I should and should not think, believe and/or say?

I don't go for censorship.

Yes, spammers are untrustworthy, and their mindset reminds me very much of what I perceive Mr. Sun's mindset to be. You see, that's MY prerogative. No one tells me what I can say and what I can't, or at the least, they won't be listened to.

If you started an "open-letter to scammers" posting drive, and asked people to write a post as part of your effort to stop scammers, it's very likely I would participate along with other Steemians, so stop trying to shame me by implying I don't always do the right thing. I AM a trustworthy person, as anyone who knows me personally would confirm to you.

As far as a fair community is concerned, in a fair community, the majority rules. The majority of Steemians, ***In My Opinion***, feel the same as I do - Justin Sun is untrustworthy, scammers are untrustworthy and I have no idea what the hell you're talking about with the coherent principles; sarcasm, I guess?

Justin Sun came in as an outsider, immediately pissed everyone in the community off, and now he's in a bind with his purchase. If he was an honest person, I would have been in his corner from the start and would still be be in his corner now. He isn't so I'm NOT.

You seem overtly motivated to equate a logical statement, that Justin Sun is untrustworthy, and project that he is a poor victim of the mean Steemians. Yeah, mean Steemians who have had their fill of his lying and deceit. Justin Sun fucked this up, and he has ONLY himself to blame. I'll never be part of his empire. I'm going HIVE and HIVE only.

👍 logiczombie

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