RE: Priming an audience: Information Finding Championship - Season 1 : Round 22 entry MUSIC by bengy

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· @bengy · (edited)
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Sorry, the part you first quoted was specifically about classical music and not more! But it might have parallel to what you were talking about. The making of classical music into a saleable product has debased many of the things that made it meaningful. Thus the focus meaningless beauty and an emphasis on the visual in an auditory art!

I have to say, the defining of music tastes and musical success by a small group of gatekeepers has been a disaster. Not financially for those in the loop, but for the art firm of music in general. I'm hopeful this wave of decentralisation will go in some part to fixing this abuse of power. 

Although, in not sure I would have enough to support where I think you are going with your conclusions! I prefer to blame the mass impact of many individual greed impulses and preservation of mediocrity above a conspiracy! Perverse incentives. 
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@apolymask ·
Ah.. Oops my bad for the misunderstanding. Lol..
I do agree it has been a disaster for art in general, and whether simple greed or something deeper, in the end it's still both of those things in my opinion. It's greed and a conspiracy, a conspiracy is just a group of people coming together with a similar goal. Though.. In regards to my kind of conspiracy, yeah I don't expect you to agree with me there. I think it's part of a larger plot to dumb people down and control them.  And.. I think you rarely ever get to the pinnacle of fame without being in one of the secret societies. During my research I've found almost every major famous person eventually leads to a secret society, even going back hundreds of years. That doesn't necessarily mean they are all bad, but.. When the world is so messed up and they don't speak out about it, it makes one wonder.
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@bengy ·
A mass of individual desires and a conspiracy have similar outcomes, but I think they are different in the cure. 

A gathering of individual desires suggests that the system and power structures give incentives to act and behave in a certain way. For instance, if we don't place a price on pollution, then there is no real incentive for the mass of the population to favour a cleaner ecosystem. To paraphrase, it is a bit odd to expect that a system that favours maximising personal gain could produce a net social good. In this interpretation (my preferred, unfortunately), people act in a greater good way only if it somehow benefits them (not necessarily in a financial sense). Thus, the way to harness this is to create rules and power structures that channel these individual desires. 

In a conspiracy (please correct me if I'm wrong!), the idea is that there is something that is holding back the natural development of society. In that case, the cure is to target the cancer and then things will go to their natural state. It is a more optimistic view, as it suggests that if people were left to develop freely then a potentially better society would emerge? Although, I'm much more pessimistic about this. I would suggest that even if that was possible, a new "power centre" would develop.
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@apolymask ·
I generally agree with your ideas here and I think you have a great way with words and putting these kinds of things into mental pictures. 

>I'm much more pessimistic about this. I would suggest that even if that was possible, a new "power centre" would develop.

I suppose that's possible, but this would almost imply this is our human nature. Which is possible.. But.. I'd like to believe we're not limited or confined to this and that there is a better way. I think perhaps in time if enough people learn to truly learn deep spiritual concepts like the "golden rule" then.. No one would ever on purpose try to infringe on others again, that would leave mostly just accidents and people accidentally hurting each other.. But.. I think if everyone truly learned the golden rule, there would be no desire to rule over each other.
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