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musing-threads · @pangoli · Dec 27 '18

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👍 musing, pangoli, bulimbabitch, fbook, pkushi

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@salmannaqvi · Dec 27 '18

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👍 salmannaqvi, foles09, fbook, bondy007

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@libert · Dec 27 '18 (edited)

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How can Steemit make the 'promote' tab functional and attractive to use instead of bots?

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👍 musing, mixr, bulimbabitch, igram, qong

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@adenijiadeshina · Dec 27 '18

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👍 musing, foles09, bulimbabitch, igram

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@pangoli · Dec 27 '18

How can Steemit make the 'promote' tab functional and attractive to use instead of bots?

<p>I think you have a very little understanding of what decentralization means. lol. Steemit inc cannot stop bidbots on their own. they do not own or control the blockchain. They need witness approval for that. I'm sorry, you did not answer this question.</p>

👍 igram, ajnin

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@my-way · Dec 27 '18 (edited)

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How can Steemit make the 'promote' tab functional and attractive to use instead of bots?

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👍 musing, bulimbabitch, fbook, puwelwol, pkushi
👎 spaminator, mack-bot, prowler

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@bozz · Dec 27 '18

$1.14

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👍 musing, mixr, bulimbabitch, fbook, puwelwol

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