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@shemzy ·
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@igweyakubu ·
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@peachyladiva ·
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@aussieninja ·
Is having a good motive a good enough excuse to justify bad outcomes?
<p>Hi Peachyladiva... I'm sorry to hear that he did that.  In future, if someone treats you in a way that you don't like... you're totally justified to bring it up later and tell them that you didn't like being disrespected and ask them not to do it again.  My partner and I have had several conversations like that over the course of our relationship and it really does make us stronger.  Maybe he was being immature or maybe he didn't realise he upset you... but he'll never know how much it hurt you if you don't tell him.</p><p>I know you didn't ask for this advice, but I do hope it helps!  Good luck!</p>
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@peachyladiva · 
Awwn thanks for the advice but that was exactly what I did
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@jplaughing ·
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@aussieninja ·
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@rasamuel ·
Is having a good motive a good enough excuse to justify bad outcomes?
<p>Haha, thanks man! Means a lot coming from anyone, really, but it means a lot more coming from you.</p><p>I also definitely agree with not having a blanket statement and other factors coming into play. And of course the distinction between motives and motivation is so spot on.</p><p>Thanks for answering! Cheers buddy.</p>
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@francistagbo ·
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@funtraveller ·
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@cryptoandcoffee ·
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