RE: Is it bad to kill people? by cryptosharon

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· @cryptosharon · (edited)
I don't usually talk from absolute truth but from the point of view of relativity itself according to which I cannot be certain of any truth. But in this post I talked from only three assumptions: that the scientific description of evolution is accurate, that my knowledge of different cultures is accurate and that there is no God.

If any of those three failed, my arguments would fail as well. However, as they are all likely to be true, I don't worry much about that.

edit: If you are also a relativist, we may agree on much more than you think. The reason for this post and all the recent ones is that I like to debate and antagonise assumptions of absolute truth, and I wanted to write some absurdist texts as a work of art. I can't reveal the title of the work of art but I guess you can appreciate the piece even without it. It starts on the post I made 4 days ago called "how free are we truly?" and it will continue for a few days (until I feel it is almost complete, but I may not be able to post the final piece as it is too controversial)
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@giddyupngo ·
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Moral Relativism could be defended, if it had a foundation of non-moral absolute truths, but without any type of absolute truth it is indefensible.  For the record I believe in absolute moral truth, and am not a relativist.

 You mentioned your three assumptions, but do you claim any of the three are absolutely true?  You defined Relativism in this way "I cannot be certain of any truth" This seems to be a bigger category than moral truth.  If you can't be certain of any truth, then what is the point of debate, school, knowledge, science, or philosophy?  They are all worthless exercises in futility.  You mentioned that you like to debate assumptions of absolute truth.  What do you hope to accomplish by this?  If there is no truth to appeal to, how could either side of the debate ever win?
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@cryptosharon · (edited)
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> If you can't be certain of any truth, then what is the point of debate, school, knowledge, science, or philosophy? They are all worthless exercises in futility. You mentioned that you like to debate assumptions of absolute truth. What do you hope to accomplish by this? If there is no truth to appeal to, how could either side of the debate ever win?

The objective is to have fun. I cannot deny that I have a lot of fun debating things and exploring the depths of the human mind and cultural delights. I don't expect to accomplish anything else. I don't think anything can be known except for the fact that I exist, so I decided I would instead explore and have fun. 

> For the record I believe in absolute moral truth, and am not a relativist.

Are you religious?
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@giddyupngo ·
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That is an interesting answer, I don't think I have ever met someone who debated simply for fun. I can see that you are an intelligent, thoughtful person. I learned a few things in coming up with my comments, so thank you.

A relativist in essence cannot prove relativism, because that would mean there is at least one absolute truth. (the relativism worldview). However, that does not prevent debating anyway.

I am a practicing Roman Catholic.
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