RE: I Do Not Want "Closed Borders" Because I'm Not An Immoral, Fearful Idiot by kyriacos

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· @kyriacos ·
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<h1>borders are silly because they are arbitarily drawn lines on a rock floating through a desolate space</h1>
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@caliman5899 ·
I guess we all have our opinions, but my guess is Kate Steinle would disagree with you if she had survived the gun shot from Juan Francisco Lopez-Sanchez.  He was the undocumented felon that had been deported 5 times before that incident.   Borders might not be the best thing, but then not all people have the high morals you do. If they did, we probably wouldn't have any crime in the first place.
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@danjones ·
Is it possible for an individual from one place to harm a person in another place? Yes, it might happen, which the article addresses. 

"But then not all people have the high morals you do." I think articles like this help us all to realize where we can start developing these morals, rather than relying on the fear that the government creates in order to forfeit your rights to them for security enabling a monopoly on violence.
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@florentina · (edited)
Sure, undocumented felons rape, murder and steal...but so do our own citizens. Really, your comment makes no sense Caliman. Nearly all of North America's worst serial killers and mass shooters have been home-grown legal citizens.  Borders are pointless as proven by the constant flow of drugs and sex trafficking between our countries--drug lords succeed in evading capture or discipline partly because their crimes are supported in one way or another by people in high power.
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@kyriacos ·
@caliman5899

Believing that borders solve crime is like believing that cars are good drivers
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@caliman5899 ·
Borders won't solve crime, of course.  Just like banning guns won't solve crime.  But borders can create a check point. When you look at the number of people that try to come into the US on a daily basis, and just open the border and let them in, consider all the jobs, housing, health service, and any other needs one needs to live here.  This country is in such debt that if/when the fed raises rates, this country will quite possibly go bankrupt. We are hard pressed to even cover interest.  Add undocumented immigrants or refugees to the mix and your asking .. begging for trouble.  bringing in immigrants at a pace where we can absorb them into the culture and make sure their background doesn't include terrorism or crime is about the only way to insure people have a prosperous life.  If that sounds like I'm xenophobic, just look at the trouble that Germany is going through.
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