RE: Do "Smart" people make the biggest mistakes? by lennstar

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· @lennstar ·
I dont think it is just to say people are stupid when they fear Trump just because he has not done anything as president yet. 

Look at it this way: As he is not president, the only predictor for his actions as president are his words and his deeds outside the office. For words he is just abominable bad. For deeds not much better. And that is not only suing when he is wrong just because he things his opponents cannot afford to fight him. Or his obstruction of a wind farm just because he can see them from his golf course, regardless of local laws (btw: he already used his almost power to lobby here).

But if you wait until he actually does something wrong, it may be too late. And that is not only true for nuclear missiles. 
You know what most people said about Hitler? He can't be as bad as he says himself, that's just election speeches, he will calm down after. 
Sorry, but as a German I don't buy into this "wait until after the fact". Been there. I was smart and did learn from history ;)

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In general speaking: Smart people make about as much errors as non smart people. They just often do bigger ones because they CAN do the bigger ones. Also there is a knows bias that if you are smart in A you think you are smart in B too, which is simply wrong. 
Smart people are used to be right even if most people say they are wrong, so they ignore those most people even if the masses are right this time.
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@dwinblood · (edited)
The bottom paragraph you wrote is much what I was getting at so I agree there.

As to only judging Trump by his words.   If you remember the past 4 or 5 elections for president the words they said were meaningless.    Why would Trump's words be any more meaningful?

Obama did the opposite of claims he made.    The difference between him and Trump is that he is Charismatic, trained in Law, so he is well versed at trying to say what people want to hear (Jury) as both a Lawyer and a Politician.

Flowery words, or not flowery really cannot predict much of anything when it comes to politics.   The only thing that ultimately matters is actions.

With Hillary we had a past history of actions while in various political positions, and her voting record as a Senator on votesmart.org.    If you reviewed those and had problems with them they were REAL actions of someone with political power.

Trump all we can do is guess.    We can use our imagination.   We can try to extrapolate it from negative business situations, but overall his businesses seem to do quite well so you really have to cherry pick and look for specific negatives and they don't make his businesses all fail.   They mostly seem to succeed.

What he will do with political power?   I have no clue.   I watched an interview with Penn Jillette who has had to deal with Trump, and he wasn't excited about him as president yet he also realized Hillary was very bad news.

If I were FORCED (that's what it would take) to vote between Hillary and Trump it would have been Trump.   Not because I like him.   It is because I am very aware of Hillary's actual actions and how bad some of them were.   Trump would be a gamble.   As with any gamble it might be bad.

Yet all of these people PREDICTING the future should go start religions, buy lottery tickets, bet on horses, etc as they seem to think they know the future from words spoken by a politician, when the words politicians speak when campaigning have been proven in every case I am aware of to NOT be what they actually do.    There have been people campaigning that do have integrity and do speak consistently and they are silenced by the media ignoring them.   So the decent people... don't get stand a chance due to our media.    If a person is not going to respond to lobbyists and agree to back room deals it is unlikely the media is going to give them the time of day unless they have a ton of money to throw at their campaign (Trump).

That said... it could be smoke and mirrors with Trump too.

All I know is we have people calling those that voted for Trump idiots, devolved, racist, sexist, etc    which are all REALLY STUPID THINGS to say.    They are saying this based upon a GUESS of what they think a person will do.   Not about what they have actually done.   I'm sorry... that is emotional, irrational, and stupid.

I'm NOT saying you are doing that.  (You may be, I didn't check) but there sure are a lot of people doing that.   Many of them are pretty intelligent people that have some strange terror of words.

My argument could also be because I am getting very pissed off at all the stupidity with political correctness.

I am very anti-censorship.   I am very freedom of speech.   I am not a hypocrite and suddenly endorse silencing people and censoring people because they say things I don't want to hear.

I also watch the media and many of their stories seem like they are designed to kick the bee hive and stir things back up just when the bees seem to be calming down.

Divide and conquer.
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