RE: Steem Velocity Hardfork - Hardfork 20 by davemccoy

View this thread on steempeak.com

Viewing a response to: @steemitblog/steem-velocity-hardfork-hardfork-20

· @davemccoy ·
$0.09
I have a question about the vote values.  According to the statement in there about dustvotes:

>Dust Vote Threshold Changes

The Velocity Hardfork will change how the Dust Vote Threshold works by allowing users with any amount of SP to cast votes as long as they have sufficient RCs. Votes that are below the threshold will be posted to the blockchain but they will have ***no impact on rewards***. This will allow users to have a better user experience on all Steem-based applications by enabling them to vote any time they choose (regardless of the size of their vote), provided that they have enough RCs.

***This change will make very weak votes become worth nothing***. In order to treat all votes (big and small) equally, all votes above the threshold will have the equivalent amount of rewards removed from their vote. This effectively establishes a baseline voting strength that applies to everyone. In addition to making it more fair, there is also the benefit of introducing a slight non-linear rewards curve at the lower end of the spectrum (to discourage spam), while still maintaining a linear rewards curve for votes above the baseline.

Does anyone know what a very weak vote is?  Is the current dust threshold still $0.02?

This is an important development either way!
πŸ‘  ,
properties (23)
post_id59,256,424
authordavemccoy
permlinkre-steemitblog-steem-velocity-hardfork-hardfork-20-20180810t011743728z
categorysteem
json_metadata{"app":"steemit\/0.1","tags":["steem"]}
created2018-08-10 01:17:45
last_update2018-08-10 01:17:45
depth1
children9
net_rshares71,421,312,377
last_payout2018-08-17 01:17:45
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.069 SBD
curator_payout_value0.021 SBD
pending_payout_value0.000 SBD
promoted0.000 SBD
body_length1,285
author_reputation20,209,499,381,910
root_title"Steem Velocity Hardfork - Hardfork 20"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 SBD
percent_steem_dollars10,000
author_curate_reward""
vote details (2)
@bashadow ·
Good question I was wondering that myself.
properties (22)
post_id59,271,270
authorbashadow
permlinkre-davemccoy-re-steemitblog-steem-velocity-hardfork-hardfork-20-20180810t045303390z
categorysteem
json_metadata{"app":"steemit\/0.1","tags":["steem"]}
created2018-08-10 04:52:45
last_update2018-08-10 04:52:45
depth2
children2
net_rshares0
last_payout2018-08-17 04:52:45
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 SBD
curator_payout_value0.000 SBD
pending_payout_value0.000 SBD
promoted0.000 SBD
body_length42
author_reputation33,368,242,522,829
root_title"Steem Velocity Hardfork - Hardfork 20"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 SBD
percent_steem_dollars10,000
@timcliff ·
See response to the parent comment.
properties (22)
post_id59,280,990
authortimcliff
permlinkre-bashadow-re-davemccoy-re-steemitblog-steem-velocity-hardfork-hardfork-20-20180810t071142631z
categorysteem
json_metadata{"app":"steemit\/0.1","tags":["steem"]}
created2018-08-10 07:11:42
last_update2018-08-10 07:11:42
depth3
children1
net_rshares0
last_payout2018-08-17 07:11:42
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 SBD
curator_payout_value0.000 SBD
pending_payout_value0.000 SBD
promoted0.000 SBD
body_length35
author_reputation262,354,724,187,317
root_title"Steem Velocity Hardfork - Hardfork 20"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 SBD
percent_steem_dollars10,000
@bashadow ·
Thanks.
properties (22)
post_id59,286,608
authorbashadow
permlinkre-timcliff-re-bashadow-re-davemccoy-re-steemitblog-steem-velocity-hardfork-hardfork-20-20180810t083531812z
categorysteem
json_metadata{"tags":["steem"],"app":"steemit\/0.1"}
created2018-08-10 08:35:12
last_update2018-08-10 08:35:12
depth4
children0
net_rshares0
last_payout2018-08-17 08:35:12
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 SBD
curator_payout_value0.000 SBD
pending_payout_value0.000 SBD
promoted0.000 SBD
body_length7
author_reputation33,368,242,522,829
root_title"Steem Velocity Hardfork - Hardfork 20"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 SBD
percent_steem_dollars10,000
@timcliff ·
$0.05
There are two β€œdust” thresholds, which can get a little confusing.

There is a dust payout threshold, which requires at least 0.02 worth of payout on a post/comment in order to receive a reward. (If the payout is less, it gets rounded down to zero.) This will be unaffected by the changes being proposed.

There is also a dust vote threshold, which is a minimum restriction on the size of votes that are allowed. This is what is changing, as described in the post.
πŸ‘  ,
properties (23)
post_id59,280,948
authortimcliff
permlinkre-davemccoy-re-steemitblog-steem-velocity-hardfork-hardfork-20-20180810t071109541z
categorysteem
json_metadata{"tags":["steem"],"app":"steemit\/0.1"}
created2018-08-10 07:11:09
last_update2018-08-10 07:11:09
depth2
children5
net_rshares35,477,181,672
last_payout2018-08-17 07:11:09
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.035 SBD
curator_payout_value0.010 SBD
pending_payout_value0.000 SBD
promoted0.000 SBD
body_length464
author_reputation262,354,724,187,317
root_title"Steem Velocity Hardfork - Hardfork 20"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 SBD
percent_steem_dollars10,000
author_curate_reward""
vote details (2)
@davemccoy ·
$0.06
Thank you very much @timcliff for taking the time to explain it to me... I have now explained that to others too... Very helpful!
πŸ‘  
properties (23)
post_id59,367,224
authordavemccoy
permlinkre-timcliff-re-davemccoy-re-steemitblog-steem-velocity-hardfork-hardfork-20-20180811t050154304z
categorysteem
json_metadata{"tags":["steem"],"users":["timcliff"],"app":"steemit\/0.1"}
created2018-08-11 05:01:54
last_update2018-08-11 05:01:54
depth3
children0
net_rshares48,419,696,438
last_payout2018-08-18 05:01:54
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.052 SBD
curator_payout_value0.011 SBD
pending_payout_value0.000 SBD
promoted0.000 SBD
body_length129
author_reputation20,209,499,381,910
root_title"Steem Velocity Hardfork - Hardfork 20"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 SBD
percent_steem_dollars10,000
author_curate_reward""
vote details (1)
@khanza.aulia ·
$0.05
I want to ask a little about the distribution of rewards for now, where the creator does not get SBD, but 50:50 between Steem and SP. Is this related to what was explained in the above post regarding hardfork velocity updates? thanks sir
πŸ‘  
properties (23)
post_id59,379,974
authorkhanza.aulia
permlinkre-timcliff-re-davemccoy-re-steemitblog-steem-velocity-hardfork-hardfork-20-20180811t083744523z
categorysteem
json_metadata{"format":"markdown","users":[],"image":[],"app":"busy\/2.5.4","community":"busy","tags":["steem"],"links":[]}
created2018-08-11 08:37:45
last_update2018-08-11 08:37:45
depth3
children1
net_rshares36,516,834,552
last_payout2018-08-18 08:37:45
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.036 SBD
curator_payout_value0.011 SBD
pending_payout_value0.000 SBD
promoted0.000 SBD
body_length237
author_reputation81,700,031,169,771
root_title"Steem Velocity Hardfork - Hardfork 20"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 SBD
percent_steem_dollars10,000
author_curate_reward""
vote details (1)
@timcliff ·
Yes. That is exactly what it is from :)
properties (22)
post_id59,425,647
authortimcliff
permlinkre-khanzaaulia-re-timcliff-re-davemccoy-re-steemitblog-steem-velocity-hardfork-hardfork-20-20180811t194308978z
categorysteem
json_metadata{"app":"steemit\/0.1","tags":["steem"]}
created2018-08-11 19:43:09
last_update2018-08-11 19:43:09
depth4
children0
net_rshares0
last_payout2018-08-18 19:43:09
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 SBD
curator_payout_value0.000 SBD
pending_payout_value0.000 SBD
promoted0.000 SBD
body_length39
author_reputation262,354,724,187,317
root_title"Steem Velocity Hardfork - Hardfork 20"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 SBD
percent_steem_dollars10,000
@dftba ·
$0.05
So, if I have 1000 SP and 100% voting power, that value from my vote is not what is changing, correct?
πŸ‘  
properties (23)
post_id63,297,696
authordftba
permlinkre-timcliff-re-davemccoy-re-steemitblog-steem-velocity-hardfork-hardfork-20-20180925t132224090z
categorysteem
json_metadata{"tags":["steem"],"app":"steemit\/0.1"}
created2018-09-25 13:22:24
last_update2018-09-25 13:22:24
depth3
children1
net_rshares39,576,004,075
last_payout2018-10-02 13:22:24
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.041 SBD
curator_payout_value0.006 SBD
pending_payout_value0.000 SBD
promoted0.000 SBD
body_length102
author_reputation563,781,876,903
root_title"Steem Velocity Hardfork - Hardfork 20"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 SBD
percent_steem_dollars10,000
author_curate_reward""
vote details (1)
@timcliff ·
Correct
πŸ‘  
properties (23)
post_id63,298,815
authortimcliff
permlinkre-dftba-re-timcliff-re-davemccoy-re-steemitblog-steem-velocity-hardfork-hardfork-20-20180925t133602445z
categorysteem
json_metadata{"tags":["steem"],"app":"steemit\/0.1"}
created2018-09-25 13:36:12
last_update2018-09-25 13:36:12
depth4
children0
net_rshares204,202,223
last_payout2018-10-02 13:36:12
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 SBD
curator_payout_value0.000 SBD
pending_payout_value0.000 SBD
promoted0.000 SBD
body_length7
author_reputation262,354,724,187,317
root_title"Steem Velocity Hardfork - Hardfork 20"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 SBD
percent_steem_dollars10,000
author_curate_reward""
vote details (1)