RE: Who will create the content for the Bid-bots to 'promote' in the future? by dj123

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· @dj123 · (edited)
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I understand you can track who gets paid by smartsteem and minnowbooster, but we can't correlate an upvote done legitimately and an upvote that was done by the bidding company when a user Steem Power went up past a certain %-percentage,  the bidding companies they transfer the funds payment internally, and they user move the SBD lump sum into the their account later, could be weeks, or months later.

i've thought about this:
- monitoring clusters of upvotes with no correlations but are regular payouts on smartsteem or minnowbooster (and mark that bids cluster if say it exceeds >$1.0 so it's removed from trending total)
- just mass exclude all upvotes from all people who subscribe to smartsteem or minnowbooster or receive payment in the last x-number-of-day (eg. 7 days if they got bidding payment all the upvotes don't count for trending)

find a solution, let me know, I look forward to seeing your feedback.

i have visited both of them before, but I didn't know you were driving and supporting them, will go  upvote  https://steemit.com/@steemflagrewards and https://steemit.com/@flagawhale both sounds like very healthy initiatives. i like the names and the spirit of the initiatives!

you got my witness vote:

![](https://steemitimages.com/DQmXSEaHtsWmXuwzkjKa8p8Yg7Zvm5vfVgyY5gviMUXRD8f/image.png)
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@abh12345 · (edited)
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I was thinking just to rule out anyone currently delegating to / receiving payment from one of the services mentioned.  It's a bit hardcore and perhaps the communities can come up with something better before we reach that point.

I'm not in the driving seat with those initiatives, but I do like what they are trying to do - https://steemit.com/abuse/@anthonyadavisii/dailytop10open-s-spam-downvote-campaign-final-results-new-mmorpg-ranks

Thank you very much for the witness vote!
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@dj123 · (edited)
can't remove everyone from that service, will make it too exclusive a trending list, i notice from interaction with others that 30-40% using those service not to gain bidding income but to not waste their Voting Power when it hits near 100%, so they set it at max 99% to upvote, or say at 96-98% for the smaller steem accounts as there is no 100% guarantee that smart steem or minnow booster will use the smaller one when it reaches near 100%.


also another problem, i've seen 1 guy who does not even take minnow booster earning at all, but 100% cycles the earning to self upvotes to raise his Rep, we can't even filter out those cases, he's unique, not many doing that, very specific goal he's trying to achieve.
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@idikuci ·
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It's trackable. 

Read minnowbooster/smartmarket wallet for transfers of money with a website link.
Cross reference timing of upvotes on person's account by people who allow those services access to post on their behalf. 
these services usual return funds not spent on upvotes. so you have a window of voting, on a specific article and have a list of people known to sell their vote. 

Until they change the method... this will work.
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