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Still no answer for this type of abuse on the trending feed. 🤷🏽♂️ IJS ![2D5287B6-B268-4458-8D76-05C8F275E8E0.png](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmbwV7LG8hnw7T7SmxCgMtRfJzHd8XqQwF2u9DVR1g5CwG/2D5287B6-B268-4458-8D76-05C8F275E8E0.png) ![DD084E53-FEF3-4A3E-9B4A-DF41F859FA5D.png](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmaRfFw7uJxdKCsUyaC7uhfjasLSEuhG5CkrDoETh2zHx7/DD084E53-FEF3-4A3E-9B4A-DF41F859FA5D.png) ![C0030040-15CD-41E7-92E2-F45E9C6DBCA0.png](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmTMdqUUsQ7XXohFgtyD2P8DeuwxVfXwiySYCEL3CFW9F1/C0030040-15CD-41E7-92E2-F45E9C6DBCA0.png)
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author | rest100 |
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Mr Bernie and other Steem reputable folks can handle that kind of abuse. > every user is allowed to use their stake however they want some will use it for selfish purposes From a whale 🐋 and witness.
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Why should it be left to a handful of people. Everybody should get involved, no matter size of account.
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mattockfs | 0 | 19,825,004,449 | 100% | ||
kabir88 | 0 | 84,918,542,209 | 100% | ||
enforcer48 | 0 | 1,706,297,604 | 5% |
Great Team! Excellent jobs! Your sincere considerations for we the Newbies is highly encouraging and commendable. Similarly, you guys democratic approachs and giving sense of belonging to the Community Members demonstrates respects to the populace and underscore the Teams great Leadership qualities. In every settings, such gestures not only makes Us stronger, but unites, breed happiness and stability. I will only appeal to everyone of us to rally round the Team, encourages them for the betterment of Our Community. I humbly appeal to Us all to kindly take no liberty for granted. Weldone guys and more wisdom , strengths and resources to doing more. Cheers!
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The only way to end that is to end vote bots. To end vote bots is to tell people they can not sell their vote. Ending vote bots also would end curation trails. They are so entwined now that unraveling them would be difficult. If you do not like it you could always go to the bot seller or the curation trail runner and ask that they not provide a service to blah blah blah person. They may or may not agree or see eye to eye with your opinion. After all the bots are about making money, the curation trails are about making money, steemit is about making money. We all have to look at ourselves and decide at what point we are taking advantage of others, like real society there will always be people that given the opportunity will seek out and use every loophole they can. We just need to live with it, and there is always the mute button if you ever grow to tired of seeing any particular individuals post.
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mattockfs | 0 | 19,428,861,339 | 100% | ||
bluerobo | 0 | 489,733,917 | 100% |
The guy doesn't use bots. Second time on this thread you've given answers which prove you don't understand the problem you are trying to solve. The account in the picture is being upvoted by a whale with large stake. Has absolutely NOTHING to do with vote selling... lol
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steemitqa | 0 | 1,751,045,298 | 10% | ||
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*"But our pitch forks don't work that way."*
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I do know who the individual in the image was and where he gets his largest vote. I also did not assume he was just pointing a finger at one person but at the Trending page in general. I myself see the trending page generally as mostly large payouts being from vote bid bots, I do know not all of them are. Also I do not disagree with the use of bid bots, if a person want to use the tools available to promote themselves then they are free to do so. I have no issues at all with voting, up or down, buy or selling or even self voting. Steemit gave people the vote to do with as they please. I have a bit better understanding after @andrarchy and @smooth tried to explain things. I am not **"trying to solve"**, I was simply offering an outside the cubical point of view, and possible solution. If a person has an idea on how to **fix** his problem concerning the trending page, the only way to get people to see the idea and allow it to be evaluated is to put it out there. Which is what I did. Thank you for your comment.
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He dropped a million and hasn't sold his initial stake, so he's definitely buoyed the price for the rest of us.
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Those are issues not of resource use but of voting consensus. If people don't like those contributions being rewarded they need to downvote them (and/or upvote other things)
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pfunk | 0 | 47,752,194,899 | 1% | ||
bitcoinparadise | 0 | 26,852,823,006 | 100% | ||
whatsup | 0 | 40,086,941,957 | 11% | ||
pjau | 0 | 15,036,391,777 | 100% | ||
lextenebris | 0 | 8,052,995,872 | 33% | ||
artisticscreech | 0 | 5,734,557,863 | 100% |
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permlink | re-smooth-re-rest100-re-steemitblog-hf20-update-operations-stable-20181001t232111950z |
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jaki01 | 0 | 538,487,315,535 | 25% | ||
cardboard | 0 | 1,485,368,404 | 100% | ||
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You can always use bots to get the rep back. Or fellow users :)
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experiment | 0 | 629,739,917 | 1% |
Even the most popular accounts on Youtube would find it nearly impossible to trend twice in one day. Some of them are multimillionaire recording artists known all over the planet. I've suggested this before: Steemit should be limiting trending slots to ONE per account. That same publisher can still consistently trend, but only their most popular post at the time should appear on the trending list. Everyone can still work towards maintaining their spot, trying to one up themselves with each publication, but a limit to one per account would open up far more slots for everyone else to have a chance at. This doesn't hurt anyone. Having more of a variety on that page would encourage more eyes to focus on it.
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author | nonameslefttouse |
permlink | re-smooth-re-rest100-re-steemitblog-hf20-update-operations-stable-20181002t045007055z |
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whatsup | 0 | 15,231,108,021 | 4% | ||
jaki01 | 0 | 64,272,413,778 | 3% | ||
feuerbolt | 0 | 141,093,015 | 100% | ||
insaneworks | 0 | 4,522,481,506 | 100% |
Good idea!
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author | whatsup |
permlink | re-nonameslefttouse-re-smooth-re-rest100-re-steemitblog-hf20-update-operations-stable-20181002t053935059z |
category | steem |
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The aggressive manipulators, including the one being highlighted here, would certainly use multiple accounts to fill up the trending page that way. You would get the illusion of diversity, but no real substance. In truth, I don't see anything all that bad about limiting trending slots to one per account, because as you say (and I agree) it should almost never happen organically. However, I have little to no belief it would make a substantive difference.
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category | steem |
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nonameslefttouse | 0 | 48,198,315,338 | 6% |
Let me add, per account per tag, on trending. I'd like to see the top posts from different tags. Sometimes, the top ten posts may be using the #Steemit tag for example or something else. It might be better to see different tags, under the all trending page and like you said, one account per trending post in the specific trending pages. Beyond that, I'd love to see trending comments as well. Maybe even trending links, photos, videos, avatars, quotes, replies, memes, GIFs, etc, as well.
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Damn so much for free speech
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last_payout | 2018-10-09 14:42:09 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
promoted | 0.000 SBD |
body_length | 28 |
author_reputation | 234,422,881,531,992 |
root_title | "HF20 Update: Operations Stable" |
beneficiaries | [] |
max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 SBD |
percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
author_curate_reward | "" |
voter | weight | wgt% | rshares | pct | time |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
dialsamai | 0 | 441,217,229 | 100% |