RE: Using the fingerprint Model of MEOS for Steem? by valued-customer

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· @valued-customer ·
Curious as to your take on a separate downvote pool.  Have you thoughts on such a proposal?
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@iflagtrash ·
I flag trash.  You have received a flag.
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@lauch3d ·
well thats a good point. But combining two factors (like with 2FA) there is statistical no chance to get both right. You can simply use facelock for account acsess and for small payments an additional pin. For wallet acsess a master key.

well, the down votepool will probably not counteract abuse. What do you think?
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@valued-customer ·
I proposed 2fa long ago, and was repeatedly blasted by witnesses and whales for it.  With 2fa, why would we need facelock?  

I reckon the DV pool will make abuse more profitable, and that's why it's coming.
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@iflagtrash ·
I flag trash (and morons).  You have received a flag.
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@lauch3d ·
Yes, you have a point. A simple 2fa is sufficient for safety. One can even combine 2fa with anti-spam/bot protection. As we can see under your comments, flag-bots can be used as weapons against users.


But then again, there would be still a problem with multiple accounts, because the 2fa does not identify you as a unique person. 

> I reckon the DV pool will make abuse more profitable, and that's why it's coming.

this would be very shortsighted, the price will drop when downvote becomes more toxic. It almost appears as if they want to destroy steemit/steem, like a bandit is burning his car to destroy evidence.
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