RE: The #circlejerk needs to END NOW! by donkeypong

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steemit · @donkeypong · Jul 16 '16 (edited)

$577.90

Fine, upvoted because you've stimulated discussion and made an interesting proposal, but two points: 

(1) Some newbies come here and get excited. Let them. I'm not going to rain on their party. 

(2) Distinguish between circle jerk and informational postings. Yes, experienced users tire of the simple 'how to' stuff, but it is essential to have on the boards regularly. If you don't like it, ignore it, but don't downvote/flag it. 

There is no stickied content and finding old posts is a pain in the ass. Yet we are getting hundreds to thousands of new people coming to the site daily. There is a demand for "how to" posts about how Steemit works. Yesterday, another writer posted some information about how the voting system works, and to see the types of comments he got in response proves to me that a ton of people genuinely didn't know (before reading his article) when they were supposed to be voting. 

If you're downvoting that kind of content, then you doing a disservice to Steemit and to people who do not yet understand how to make the most of the opportunity it offers.

👍 berniesanders, donkeypong, pfunk, nanzo-scoop, xeroc, anonymous, theoretical, infovore, kaylinart, beerbloke, jlwkolb, mctiller, leta-blake, hannixx42, btcswag, squirrellywrath, sephiroth, jsc, adrian-vox, valen55, igster, instructor2121, cannav, biophil, michaelx, fulltimegeek, cattyboy, kaj-huisman, frankenmint, zelgald1, thezman007, ndell, taggley, johngalt, asim, mxo8, timd, icculus, satch, edouard, calo

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@jacobt · Jul 16 '16 (edited)

All valid points - almost talked about this.  People can always click into a topic/"steem" for Steemit, or "Getting Started", etc.  While that may not be obvious, in addition to this proposal, maybe stickied content, or a "Getting Started" topic should be added as well.

However, I do not think that because of this reason, the overall experience of steemers, new and old, should be compromised.

👍 frankenmint, edouard

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@donkeypong · Jul 16 '16

$0.08

Yes, you are right, but from my discussions with others, it does not seem like very many people are really browsing the tags seriously enough yet. We should use them and we will (have to) use them as more content gets posted, but I am a little wary of relying on them at this point for people to find informational postings. We certainly do need stickied content; it would put me halfway out of a job (as a writer who has done far more 'how to' stuff than I ever wanted), but I'd support some stickies in a heartbeat.

👍 leta-blake, michaelx, frankenmint

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@jacobt · Jul 16 '16

I don't disagree - I think this is important as well.  I absolutely do NOT want new users being lost or confused.  The beginner experience is critical to the success and in everyone's best interest.  I do think these two should be done in concert.

👍 satch

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@biophil · Jul 17 '16

I respect your reasons for upvoting here, but I put serious work into the posts that @jacobt flagged. Whatever else your upvote does, it validates his abusive flagging.

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@jacobt · Jul 17 '16 (edited)

Sorry for that - really.  I did explain the reasoning for that - not that I don't consider it well done content. :/

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@mjgrae · Jul 17 '16

Absolutely agree with the need for stickied content and a better user onboarding process. 

Even if a user's first load of the site started with an "admin" tag of sorts that contained great how-tos and information posts, I think that would go a long way to getting users up to speed and increasing the value of their contributions faster.

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