RE: Self-Voting: Scammy Behavior, Rational ROI, or Something Else? by erelas

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· @erelas ·
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This, so much this..."In my opinion, much of this thinking comes from the default action on Steemit.com which votes up a newly created root post immediately."

That was actually a key thing I was looking for as I read your post, and you've definitely gotten my vote.  That is switched on by default, and how many new Steemians are even going to notice or give it proper regard if they do?

Putting an equal amount of both sides of the argument out there is great and I'm personally of the mind, technical aspect of adding noise aside, if it makes the poster / commenter happy or makes sense to them, then who am I to judge?  Let them do their own thing and be happy in it.

A small criticism, though it often makes me laugh, it's "foul" not "fowl-play", and for all I know, you intended that.

A suggestion, take a look at the criticism and outright blacklisting of posters accused of comment spamming their own posts.  Example, I'm the author, I respond to a comment (from bot or human, whatever) and then some arbitrary judge with a "blacklist" comes in and says, "Don't do that or else".  I'd love to hear your thoughts on that behaviour, both sides!!
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@lukestokes ·
It won't be for much longer: https://github.com/steemit/condenser/pull/1541

I just edited the post to include a link to that.

> it's "foul" not "fowl-play",

Hahah... <a href="https://www.teepublic.com/t-shirt/1208353-i-suspect-fowl-play">Here we go</a>.

Thank you! I often have my wife proof read my stuff before it goes out, but I was just too excited to get this one going. I do silly things like this all the time.

> "Don't do that or else".

There are a lot of bullies in every community around the world. They are here also. My best suggestion is to learn and use <a href="https://steemit.com/peace/@lukestokes/nvc-violence-is-a-tragic-expression-of-an-unmet-need">NVC</a> knowing that all violence is a tragic expression of an unmet need. Try to understand their needs, insecurities, etc and hopefully you can meet them without letting them control your behavior.
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@erelas ·
I'm going to give your NVC article a deeper read, thank you for that.  I found your comment particularly telling considering you are a witness and pretty sure most know instinctively where my unhappy is directed, heck I used to be "that person".

Love the shirt, family is giggling at it now, especially since our little flock of Hazel, Prissy, and Mavis (New Hampshire Reds), would entirely get it.

Just consider that topic though, I'm always up for a good read, or leave those cards were they are laying, as I think evolution is gonna solve that issue.
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