RE: Regarding Transisto and Flagging by fingersik

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· @fingersik · (edited)
As I said it is only my point of view. The reasoning behind his actions is not strong, it’s rather invalid I agree. People here, from my experience, have a problem to admit that the biggest motivation for everyone on Steemit is money. When you spot that someone is getting ridiculous rewards (subjective matter) for the value the user is bringing you try to find better reasoning than "bigger value than what is deserved".

I think that when you hit that wealthy trail, you should try to further increase the quality of the posting, instead of its frequency. I personally deem that as a rewardpoolrape and if I was the trail I would immediately remove the auto-upvote. What evidence do you want? I didn’t understand that one sorry.

And as to your questions. No If I had the power I would tell her my problem (I always do when it’s not spammer with the same comment all over the platform...that I flag directly). I would be interested in hearing out what she thinks prior to taking action. I wouldn’t definitely remove 100% (if the post had 100 bucks value) rather 50% if we didn’t reach a consensus. Also If I was the trail I would just remove the vote. I am an advocate for quality rather than quantity and I have spotted the spamming syndrome in there. That most of the content is of lesser quality is irrelevant, I would just find different content of high quality (from my point of view)...Hope I made myself clearer than in the comment before:)
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@bashadow ·
I have a problem with your reasoning. Right now my vote is only worth $0.010. Most people could care less about my vote at this stage. I voted on most of those post that were flagged. Any reward I would have gotten is pretty much toast. If I vote I comment. Some of those comments Michelle found good enough to vote on, so that means I will get a reward. 
Now you are telling me that when my vote eventually rises to $100.00 *(if that's possible)*, and I really liked a post that it would be a waste of my time to vote what I think it is worth because you are going to come along and adjust it to what **YOU** think it is worth? Please tell me why I or anyone else should vote on anything if it is only **You** and **transisto** that are capable of deciding what a payout/persons vote should be worth?
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@fingersik ·
You’ve done several “discussion fouls” in here. First of all where do I imply that I and transistor are the only one who can adjust the payout? EACH AND EVERY INVESTOR (stakeholder) can do that. Michele had early voters on her and value of her post was every time too high for you to get anything out of curation from her posts at your stage. If you want to understand why feel free to check this [tutorial]( https://steemit.com/curation/@fingersik/tutorial-how-curation-works-steemit-noobs-edition-strategy-for-users-with-sp-0-1500). The fact that she has voted for your comment is absolutely irrelevant. Good for you I guess, but it doesn’t have anything to do with the post and with what people think about its value. [If you accept the upvote you have to accept the downvote too]( https://steemit.com/steemit/@schattenjaeger/if-you-accept-the-upvotes-you-really-need-to-accept-the-downvotes) Its really that simple:). I do not have the right to suppose that I know what is good for the system, but you neither dear Steemit user. Your comment is more or less and emotional outburst without any valid argument…
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@arthur.grafo ·
I've seen that quoted so often, without it really having a meaning that makes sense to me.
> If you accept the upvote you have to accept the downvote too Its really that simple

No, it is not that simple, not just because  you say it is. Upvoting is a way for us to say to someone, thank you for sharing with us, and we give as we can or as we wish. That is our right - or are you saying we do not have that right? That only a bunch of you with the power and influence have the right? I have tried to see how it is that upvoting can be abuse, but I have not succeeded.

As for downvoting, it can only be of a positive nature when preventing other kinds of abuse, the kinds that are criminal, not the kind that cater to anyone's whims or tastes. Downvoting, unless it can be appealed (not to the downvoter) it becomes a wonderful stick, a whip, to force others into following your wishes.

It also sounds as if you are saying that the advantages of a capitalistic economy are not acceptable here, that it is not  a marketplace where we each get paid according to what we are perceived to have offered in return?  Oh, people can reward us if they want, but if you think they paid too much, you do not make them take back some of the money, nope, you take the money!



So, they are not two sides of the same coin, as you try to make it appear to be and there are more ethical and moral questions in force that you do not seem to be willing to even consider, for then it means you and your friends might have to relax some of the controls you feel you have over us. That is sad.
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