RE: Introducing the Steem Defender Bot. Designed to Protect Steem From Economic Collapse and Support Minnow Growth (Article) by i-juggler

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· @i-juggler ·
Actually, this is quite funny. Our media agency has noticed that there is an inverse relationship between the number of bot comments and the number of human comments. The more bot comments there are, the less likely people seem to want to comment. Since it is the people we want to get in touch with, to create a relationship with the audience here before our Beta-launch in December, we wanted to encourage commenters as much as possible. We think it's important to create these relationships now, to show how authentic we are, as a side-effect of flipping the switch of our advertising potential is a significant adoption of Steemit by a wider audience. 

I find it really interesting that this causes such an emotional reaction in people, which is self-evident by the changes in their written diction when compared to other comments they make. I have to question why that is. What specifically perturbs you about any of the concerns you bring up? 

Personally, I feel the majority of people acting negatively are doing so unconsciously: that drama has been stirred up and everyone wants to jump on board and participate in the bashing. It is the thanatos of human nature that desires to call someone a junkie and willingly jumps on such an opportunity that seems favorable without social ramifications of doing so. Because it doesn't make sense that someone who aligns with esoteric philosophy to stand opposed to an organization that is actively promoting esoteric principles in alignment with highest collective good. Logically, in the big picture, it seems most likely that your concerns are arising from a short-sighted position that is not taking into consideration all the potential implications of the Earth Nation actions. Obviously, it's not an us vs them conflict, but to oppose us is to oppose an organization which actively strives to make the world a better place, and has a history of being transparent in how it is achieving this in a manner that grows the site and spreads the wealth with our steemit guild.

 In my opinion, that's where real ignorance lies.
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@inquiringtimes · (edited)
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the real reason people comment less when there are a lot of bot comments, is because if you have to pay so many bots for your content to be popular, then your content must not be very good.  so people see all the bots and think, why does the author think it's so valueless they must pay 10 bots to vote for it, hmm it must not be good content, I won't engage.

pass that on to your media consultants, free of charge.

flagging your paid advertisers is like giving a spanking to people who helped you.  I know quite a few bot developers, and I will make sure they know this happens, so they can stop servicing people who "reward" their service with a downvote.
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@earthnation ·
We put the smallest amount of down-vote in to the comments of those bots @inquiringtimes to clear the space for more room for dialogue. 

We recommend that upvote bots set an option to not have them auto-comment or a smaller comment box so it doesn't take up so much space. 

If our 1 cent flags are somehow harming the bots themselves, we'd be happy to upvote comments to offset the loss.
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@inquiringtimes ·
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You can say it's bad logic, but I know these things from a few months of digging deep.  This whole site is a deep well of knowledge, first thing first, etiquette.  Flags are not to be used in an idle fashion.  They are akin to throwing a glove on the ground or taking your glasses off and handing to a friend.  It's asking for a fight.  If you had been paying attention, there is quite a bit of controversy over the use of bots and providing the service.  It's best left for minnows and people who don't have visibility.  Now you've opened up Pandora's box.  The best way to proceed is to speak softly, and pay more attention to how the rest of the community behaves.  Just like in any community.  You have a chance to redeem yourself, it's just going to be harder.  All eyes are on you now.  Cite your images.  Reference quotes, stay clear of any hint of plagairism
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@i-juggler ·
>the real reason people comment less when there are a lot of bot comments, is because if you have to pay so many bots for your content to be popular, then your content must not be very good.

This is very poor logic. Given that any content we have produced is met with a large positive reception, it is safe to say that the content we produce is good.

In fact, the only negative thing people can find about our content is that we use bots. I think that's a pretty solid argument that our content has some sort of quality associated with it.

>why does the author think it's so valueless they must pay 10 bots to vote for it, hmm it must not be good content, I won't engage.

Again, poor logic. One must ask how we got 800+ followers in a couple short weeks. Because we used bots, we gathered a sizable following quickly. That's decent engagement.

We aren't trying to reach people who act unconsciously and walk away from an article for reasons other than the content of the article itself. The people who would act on reflex to someone using bots are not thinking critically. It's much more beneficial to focus on attracting a following of conscious individuals who realize the use and downvoting of bots is a meaningless detail when compared to everything we are manifesting.

"I was going to walk into the mission and help feed starving people, but I would have had to step on the grass to do so."

>flagging your paid advertisers is like giving a spanking to people who helped you

If I paid money for a car, and the dealer slapped a big sticker on the windshield, I would take the sticker off. The dealership has my money, so me removing their ad from the product I bought has no bearing on the dealership.
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@inquiringtimes ·
good luck with that.
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