RE: The #circlejerk needs to END NOW! by jacobt

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· @jacobt ·
If you feel the concerns aren't valid state that.  If you don't agree with the proposal state that.  If you want to take a back seat, do that.

The proposal is a day of dev work that solves a lot of problems - that's the point.  Things take time, some things have higher values than others, etc, etc.  This is a relatively easy addition that fixes a lot of issues.
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@intelliguy ·
Really?  Then why don't you volunteer your time to help code it, since you're so sure that this is a "relatively easy addition".

Do you have prior experience coding such a large scale system like this?  Things that "seem easy" may not be easy.  It's not just technical perspectives. There's also social and political perspectives and other things that need to be addressed. Also since steem is a decentralized chain, it requires consensus which also takes time.

What really annoyed me is you're cynical view of the problems and how you've threaten to no longer post.  For every 1 person that walks out the door, there's 250 coming in.  Like any new "early bird" system, there always has to be the select few naysayers about how this won't work.

I bet you when Facebook first came out, there were people who groaned "oh god! whats this? a facebook? oh please.  This is so stupid. no one will ever join. Facebook will go nowhere". They must have heard this thousands of times in the early days.

While some of your concerns are valid.  Referring to people involved in steem as being the equivalent of a "circle jerk" is not only crude, but downright insulting.  Aka, my response.

Here's one for you: This is my "last reply" on your post.  I don't want to circle jerk with you either. How's that a nice way of conveying a thought?  I just learned it from you.
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@jacobt ·
Not sure why you're taking this post personally.  I never referred to people taking part in Steem as anything in particular.  I am one of those people.  Do not take offense.  I do want to clear a couple things up.

- I didn't say this was my last post.  I said it was my last "Steemit related post".  That means I won't contribute to the circlejerk, despite the enticing monetary gains that could be had.
- I actually run a software company and I'm a full-stack developer - extremely qualified to make the assessment I did on the timing.
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@intelliguy ·
Technically you made sense on certain issues. But when you talk about circlejerking, it clouds what you're trying to say. 

Then you added the "WTF is this shit" meme, which adds to the class even more.

Finally you are already eluding to how worthless steem will be, how in its current state it is doomed to fail.  If anyone contradicts you, you label what they say as "excuses".  You did that in the post, and you did it as replies too.

Steem is organic. It is growing and developing.  We're all learning how to use the system, and that includes the developers themselves.   Growing pains are inevitable, and it is not because of excuses.

I think with a little more patience and appreciation of where this can go, make your points.  But please stop referring to this as one big circlejerk.  It's just wrong.
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@jacobt ·
@intelliguy the Steemit posts are the #circlejerk, not Steemit itself.
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