RE: If I Ran Steemit: An Open Letter To The Steemit Community by kryptik

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steemit · @kryptik · Oct 11 '16

I disagree with redistribution altogether, and I'm a peasant here. 

Giving away steem is not a good long term move. "You can give a man a fish and he eats for a day." 

There needs to be a way that enthusiastic, engaging users, can acquire more SP through a system of being rewarded for activity. Maybe an extra boost for meeting certain required events on a daily basis? 

We do need to be reader centric here really. Not everyone will "win" writing/creating. If you have only three neurons devoted to forward thinking you still should be able to deduce that readers will always make up the bulk of the user-ship. Why limit growth with the deification of content creators? We need a balance in that department.

👍 michelle.gent, kryptik

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@stellabelle · Oct 11 '16

It would be a one time gift! Not something repeated. Most corporations give Turkeys on Christmas in USA to their employees. This would be a way to organically find and reward the engaged users who are not writers necessarily. This place lacks organic curators....well, no they are right here in plain sight!

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@kryptik · Oct 11 '16

You're right, a one time gift. That's my point. 

One time gifts do nothing for future generations of users and eventually we'll end up back where we are now. We'll have the same imbalance with different faces. Would you give a gift every year? That would bleed investors dry. 

The only argument to this is that a gift won't be really be changing much in the way of distribution of wealth. In which case what is the point?

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@stellabelle · Oct 11 '16 (edited)

it would show the users and the world that steemit is dedicated to decentralization. The other option would be just to burn a large amount like Synereo did. That move on their part solidified their dedication and commitment to decentralization. By holding onto Steem, it doesn't look good in comparison from a user stand point.

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@kryptik · Oct 11 '16

I hope you understand that I mean this in the most civil way possible and that I'm not trying to attack you. We need more discussion like this here.

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@rubellitefae · Oct 11 '16

As a one-time reward, I don't think this would be effective. It ought to be something that occurs monthly, but with lower reward values than you suggest. Either that, or raising the value of comment upvotes. Alternatively, they could scale back the SP multiplier such that the power rift isn't as great. This would make dolphins more powerful and reinforce the minnows' drive to become dolphins.

👍 kryptik

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@piedpiper · Oct 12 '16

$0.08

poor turkeys :(

👍 piedpiper, ervin-lemark

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@rubellitefae · Oct 11 '16

How is rewarding content drivers "giving away" anything? I see the proposition as more meritocratic.

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