RE: Why Inequality on Steemit is a Good Thing! by logic

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· @logic ·
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Inequality is NEVER a good thing!
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@shaka · (edited)
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Imagine the opposite: total equality. This would eliminate any dynamics I believe. Also quality could not excel, because if it would, it would again lead to inequality...
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@logic · (edited)
Social systems are much more complex than obsolete and utopian duality which you present. Social systems, as everything in Universe are of emerging nature (constantly changing). We need to strive for sustainable equality. Such equality is positive and can only be acquired through application of scientific method for social and environmental concern (example Natural Law/Resource-Based Economy)
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@diego24 ·
Nobody needs to imagine total equality. That's not what anyone is talking about. It's just that the gap between the few at the top and the rest maybe is way too big.
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@bleepcoin ·
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Really do you want us to all be the same?
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@logic ·
Equality has nothing to do with social uniformity. Please do not use logical fallacies and explore the meaning of words.
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@faddat ·
Fight poverty not inequality.
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@diego24 ·
Well, there is a gradation ey. A society with 1 billionaire and 3 million slaves is also an inequal one. Does that sound like something tempting ? ;-)
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@blakemiles84 ·
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Forced equality leads to mass graves. What's your point?
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@pachenko ·
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@blakemiles84, I agree with you on this one obviously.  Definitely appreciate hearing an opposite viewpoint though! @logic
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@blakemiles84 ·
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Really liked your writeup... and its driving a good debate. Thank you!
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@diego24 ·
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I am not that sure that inequality is a good thing. Because the whales are paying out in a way that doesn't make sense. I will make an article tomorrow why this inequality isn't good. I am not advocating the whales to change this. They do what they want. I just try to make them aware of things. What they do with my view is up to them. 

I understand they invested more so they need to get extra advantages. I can understand why they get more free Steem Power every day than the rest of us. I can understand that they get more money when they get upvoted than we do. But the fact that they have so much power when they upvote, is not good. It is completely against the free market. And the free market will decide whether Steemit is a worthy product or not. If the free market decides the content that is valued here, is not what they want, then the market will dump Steemit and the whales will be left with a crashed project.
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@doctorstrange ·
You deserve a pat on the back. Very rare to see someone value or at least admitting to appreciating a different viewpoint. Be proud!
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@logic ·
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Neither forced equality nor inequality are a good thing.
What I mean is sustainable equality. Such equality is positive and can only be acquired through application of scientific method for social and environmental concern (example Natural Law/Resource-Based Economy)
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@blakemiles84 ·
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Completely agree with you on the 'sustainable equality'... though since it's an equilibrium position that has to be maintained, the scientific method you advocate for is the only way to keep the position maintained.

What that translates for me is that time will 'solve' the problem, if there is even anything that truly needs to be solved based on quantitative and qualitative analysis over time.

Good discussion :)
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@logic · (edited)
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Please, also you are welcome to explain what you mean by "forced" equality as it sounds illogical and paradoxical. If something is forced, it cannot be equal as it requires some position of power to enforce it. That means that someone has more power than others hence it is unequal itself.
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@blakemiles84 ·
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Well... thats more of a snarky term for 'redistribution of wealth'. A progressive income tax is an _attempt_ at forced equality, but as you point out it is impossible to accomplish for anyone who is looking objectively. 

I think you just defined the problems of socialist policies in a simple paragraph :)
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@faddat ·
He is talking about the idiocy of Leninist/Stalinist Marxism.

But let's all remember that Marx was an anarchist, and that his goal was to fight the state.  I consider myself a Marxist, in that I buy into, deeply, the vision for the future Marx espoused.  That does not mean that I support all of Marx's ideas, because life has changed a great deal since then.  

Most likely scenario with no third world war: tech makes living well so cheap that all of us become rich.
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@faddat ·
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Inequality is great.  Now, poverty, on the other hand, totally sucks.  We should work hard to fight poverty by allowing inequality.
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