Is it important what is posted or who posts it ? An embarrassing faux pas of the whales by nang1

voting · @nang1 · Oct 19 '16

$2.92

Is it important what is posted or who posts it ? An embarrassing faux pas of the whales

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<h1>And then the whales wonder if some writers are frustrated here.</h1>
<p><img src="https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14657320_1318156788215635_8628673741852686800_n.jpg?oh=f2d2e60a1e6dd98c615fc3ceb7823b1b&amp;oe=5890398E" width="954" height="399"/></p>
<h3>An almost identical post is rated very differently by the whales. The funny thing about the matter is that the less well-rated post went online first, and the content of the linked article was briefly summarized in it. While in the highly praised post without a short description of the content of the fair poster even afterwards was pointed out, that this post already exists and the Votes nevertheless should go to the previously published poster. See picture below.</h3>
<p><img src="https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14563291_1318156994882281_1526641618080592656_n.jpg?oh=178b6056b1c637ab80288fa43de4b530&amp;oe=58A9F92E" width="844" height="559"/></p>
<h3>This shows quite clearly that there is no pig interested in what is posted when it is published by the right one. Or would I have better to write porpoise ? :)</h3>
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<h3>Here are the links to the two posts</h3>
<h3>Good post :) <a href="https://steemit.com/deutsch/@essra/bitcoin-and-co-ezb-tritt-fuer-straffe-regulation-virtual-wurhrungen-ein">https://steemit.com/deutsch/@essra/bitcoin-and-co-ezb-tritt-fuer-straffe-regulation-virtual-wurhrungen-ein</a></h3>
<h3>Bad post :( <a href="https://steemit.com/crypto-news/@herzmeister/bitcoin-and-co-ezb-trecht-fuer-straffe-regulation-virtual-wurhrungen-ein">https://steemit.com/crypto-news/@herzmeister/bitcoin-and-co-ezb-trecht-fuer-straffe-regulation-virtual-wurhrungen-ein</a></h3>
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<h2>Always stay tuned and see the whole with humor. ;)</h2>
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@biophil · Oct 19 '16

The reality is that the strongest predictor of payout is the name of the author. There are very many bots operating on this platform, and the most common of these either vote for pre-defined author lists or are dumb vote-followers and vote for posts once they see that some other account has voted for them.

I've created a more advanced bot that is neither of these. My bot learns what kinds of posts make big rewards, and then votes for them - and the biggest thing it's learned so far is that the easiest way to predict a post's payout is to look at the author. It's not a very good system yet, but that's the state of things.

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@stellabelle · Oct 19 '16

and bots are why things like this happen:
![stellacommentc3d63.jpg](https://storage.googleapis.com/steemimgimgs/2016/10/19/stellacommentc3d63.jpg)

[![stellacomment2f82a4.th.jpg](https://storage.googleapis.com/steemimgimgs/2016/10/19/stellacomment2f82a4.th.jpg)](https://www.steemimg.com/image/HE6Om)

A post with 234 comments gets $21
While a post with 7 comments gets $221. 
Absurd.

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@biophil · Oct 19 '16

Dumb bots are why that happens. We need more smart bots.

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@dennygalindo · Oct 19 '16 (edited)

We need the topic feed! Everything is organized by author, a problem.

https://steemit.com/steem-ideas/@dennygalindo/help-me-build-a-topic-feed

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@essra · Oct 19 '16

@nang1 I totally agree with you. @herzmeister will receive my author rewards, but this won´t fix the problem.

👍 essra

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@herzmeister · Oct 20 '16

as mentioned in the german thread, I wouldn't have noticed, and I take it with humour, but thanks for pointing it out. `:)`

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