RE: The Big Voting-Game CHANGE Proposal by smooth

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· @smooth · (edited)
I'm still opposed to naked vote buying which does not add value. If someone makes a shitpost that says little more than "half the reward on this post will be paid to voters" and adds no more value to the platform, then it is worthy of downvoting.

Steemsports is not that. It is participatory content that has a small element of vote-buying (implemented in a manner as to be focused primarily on stake redistribution), but _also with significant effort/work toward_:  developing the brand and concept, bringing sports writing and coverage to the platform, and finally driving a significant effort/work in building a business and various marketing and promotional plans that bring additional value to the ecosystem.

I'm also not sure where you get the idea of steemsports or its supporters discouraging competition. I've also supported the bacchist's fantasy hockey league and ats-david's sports contest posts. Those are _direct competition_ which also get my votes. I don't see any issue with competition.
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@beanz · (edited)
When you used to flag these games @smooth they were very often interactive and engaging.  There were lotto games and competitions that you down voted because the rewards would be used to "manipulate voting"incentives.  Now maybe your subjective opinion was that those games were "shitposts".  But suddenly when YOU LIKE the content you chose not to ask for the removal of the vote buying aspect.  (Despite the fact that you often flag a post just to have one sentence removed before you will up vote it)
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Your SP is for manipulating the reward pool.  It is abuse to manipulate the users to use their votes in favour of YOUR SUBJECTIVE VIEW.  Can you seriously not see how incredibly selfish and hypocritical it is to go from down voting these games one minute and then turn around and up vote the ones that YOU like, to manipulate the votes yourself?

By supporting those vote games YOU are buying the votes of the minnows.  As if you don't have enough SP to vote with.  By doing this you are making the system less decentralised because you are using more than your own SP to distribute the rewards.

Imagine if the co founders were to do this!  It would certainly then be seen as taking more power from those of us with the least power.

If you want to use my SP to vote for the things YOU LIKE you can buy my SP and power it up but I will not be selling cheap!

And the way that it discourages competition is because only the games YOU SUPPORT will be played by the minnows because the rewards for the others are low.  So again it discourages competition because even more power than the SP you hold is being used to manipulate the reward pool!
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