A few questions to anyone willing to answer. by apolymask

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· @apolymask ·
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A few questions to anyone willing to answer.
First question = Do you believe in freedom?

Second question = Do you believe that a group of people should be able to come together in a sort of "mob rule" sense to vote to control other peoples lives?
Or to vote to steal money from them to pay for certain projects they desire?

Or... Should we be able to freely speak, work, travel, defend ourselves and so on without any amount of people forcefully with violence telling us we can't?
Are the rights of one person more important than the majority of collective wishes of the whole of a given government?

Said another way, when you go to vote.. Do you think it's ethically or morally right that you and other people can theoretically force your will on others and control them via the violent force of government?
One more final question if you don't mind answering. Can you prove 100% without a doubt than any of the votes you've ever cast have actually been counted properly or even counted at all?
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@jimmymcccrypto ·
It's an impossible question you are asking people to answer. It's all objective. What one person considers as freedom may not be considered as freedom by another. 

Additionally, many of the questions you posed are arguments against democracy. Namely, the 51% voting to kill the 49% style question you posed in your article. It's a tricky series of questions you have asked.
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@apolymask ·
I'm not sure it's impossible. I'm not sure it's tricky or that difficult either. Unless you're sort of.. Well entrenched in the current system and understanding of things which is most people, but these ideas are very commonly discussed in the anarchist communities.
 I can understand how it many seem difficult at first if you haven't been well exposed to the ideas, and I'm not acting like it would necessarily magically fix everything, however. To me after studying this much of my life, the principle of self ownership seems like one of the most important things. And self ownership is very at odds with the way people in this world want to rule over others.
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@jimmymcccrypto ·
I'd say it's impossible in getting a concrete definition of the things you mentioned in your above post. Things such as freedom hold different definitions for different people. Freedom to the Chinese means something much different when compared to what freedom means to someone in America. It's not a matter of if you're "entrenched in the current system", but more that there is no real universal definition for a lot of things.
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@apolymask ·
Oh also I think the opinion of freedom can vary, but on another hand it's also simple and easy to measure if you use the Golden Rule as a starting point. PS Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
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@baah ·
I think you mean subjective.

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@baah · (edited)
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First, what is freedom?

Freedom is the successor to free will.

Defining freedom is simple if you have the starting point of free will. Freedom and free as a word has the richest etymology by far out of all other words, I won't say anything else about its history. So, moving on, freedom is inherent in owning oneself, or in other words being in control over oneself, or having free will. If you have no free will you cannot even form an argument for that position since its obviously not your will, and therefore a performative impossibility. Self-ownership and being one's master means you cannot invalidate anyone else self-ownership or right to master themselves. If you do, you performatively agree that others can do the same which is the foundational logic for self-defense, as you have been contracted to void the other persons right to master themselves the moment they initiated the same to you.

So freedom is not a matter of belief or interpretation, freedom is free will.

The second question needs a much more pointed premise for me to answer it to the effect you wish for, so let me rephrase the question so as to remove all ambiguity and chance for interpretation:

Is it acceptable for people to violate the inherent free will of others?

Absolutely no, it's unequivocally never acceptable for people, regardless of how many or through whichever scheme to violate others free will.

Why did the question need to be repurposed?

Because I believe in such a scenario, that if everyone agrees to be controlled, by mob rule or any other form, they should be able to do so because consent makes such scenario exceedingly acceptable. Of course, if people change their mind, they still have the free will to do so and at that point, if the other people don't respect that choice then it's completely wrong and evil and that person has every right to take that violation as a positive contract that stipulates the other party as without free will and then anything that person wishes to make that other party do, such as pushing flowers from a shallow grave, they have every right, every justification, all that is good and correct, to do so.

The flipside is obvious then. We have all right to do as we wish, its inherent in our makeup, our constitution, we have free will to chose and do as we please. Then, there aren't any who have more or fewer rights or greater or lesser rights.

Now for the home run.

If you are part of a society that you consented by your own choice (not under any kind of duress) and all was disclosed (not under any kind of deception) and in such a society you agreed to follow the rules voted on by the majority then there's nothing wrong with that, granted that the rules don't force anyone, but everyone chooses to follow them, as otherwise forcing others is the same as offering them a unilateral contract signed and dated by you stating that you agree to be forced by them HOWEVER they wish, and stipulating that should you resist they have every right to force you even more willingly.

To wit, if you want to find out what actual government is, or Self Govern, go to www.annavonreitz.com and sink your teeth in the beef that is 1.3 k articles deep, discussing the difference between what Government is and what we think, or believe, the government is.

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