Steem or Leo by cflclosers

steemleo · @cflclosers · Nov 6 '19

$2.49

Steem or Leo

![1280-1200-529666500-leo-sign.jpg](https://ipfs.busy.org/ipfs/QmPTAY7eo4cYf5FKjGAycQyZ8eELGLLWeKLBHbB9GVW5bo)

So I was reading a few posts in the last few day about how great @steem.leo is and how it will probably be the first stand alone tribe to break out of the confines of the steemit ecosystem.  I agree with that sentiment.

Leo is the only token that I really covet and try my best not to cash in.  If you've been reading my posts over the past few months then you know that I have been actively trading tokens for steemp while the price of steem has been low in an effort to accumulate more steem.

I currently have amassed 316 steemp on steem-engine with the intent to either hold or buy back tokens when steem rises above $.16.  What I'd like to know from the community is whether they feel like holding in steem is better than holding in Leo.

I could take my 316 steemp and buy Leo if I wanted to.  There seems to be a lot of upside in the token but I don't know the upside of buying and holding.  Would it be wiser to do so or just hang out in steem?

I really look forward to the comments on this one.

👍 leo.voter, one.life, edicted, steem-ua, tewkenaire, upvotebuilders, sbi2, numberofthingz, inature, truce, mindtrap, ketcom, midlet, likwid, culgin, roncoejr, shaidon, coreyssteemit77, gascap9000, anttn, bitrocker2020, taskmaster4450, qurator, sharkface, linakay, marfonso, cryptovues, ronaldoavelino, kenanqhd, iptrucs, slingshot, daltono, theestateof.mind, trevonjb, gharrington44, cryptoxicate, swiftcash, summertooth, wrecktangle27, cryptofiloz, lagtv, steemer-sayu907, onepercentbetter, gandhibaba, badmusgreene, jluvs2fly, joannewong, glastar, headcrypto, michaeljn, lagtvgames, dhanagc, world-travel-pro, theexcelclub, e-r-k-a-n, amahovac93, kevmcc, otage, espoem, cryptogangz, casberp, intrepidthinker, syedumair, madstacks, and 189 others

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@ronaldoavelino · Nov 6 '19

$0.02

Should they be staked?

👍 dustbunny, commentcoin

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@commentcoin · Nov 6 '19

[@alucian] No Staking is planned. :-) Free, instand  and transparent working is the point of our view.

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@culgin · Nov 6 '19

Haha.. I am personally queuing for more LEO. I agree with you that SteemLeo is the most outstanding tribe so far. 

Since many of us are here because of our interest in cryptos, therefore the price, therefore trading and investments. SteemLeo immediately caught my eyes when I get to know about it

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@tts · Nov 6 '19

$0.20

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👍 noaommerrr

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@rollandthomas · Nov 6 '19

That's a great questions, I think in the short run, we could see Leo appreciate against Steem.  However, when SMTs are launched anything thing is possible.  Overall, I think there is some type of positive correlation, but I'm not sure exactly what that number is.

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@entrepreneur.one · Nov 6 '19

Weedcash is the first.

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@edicted · Nov 6 '19

$0.03

I think the question itself is flawed, as it implies employing a risky min/max strategy. Rather than going all in on one or the other we should be asking ourselves what kind of spread we want.

Steem is more decentralized than Steemleo, making it the safer bet. Steem is also guaranteed to have more development due to the constant work Steemit Inc. does for the protocol.

That being said, it only takes 6k Leo to become a whale at this point. It's a lot easier to get in now and own a very large percentage of the network.

Leo piggybacks off of Steem, so everyone that uses Leo must have enough Steem to even transact on the blockchain. At the moment this doesn't matter much because the 20 or so Steem coins required to transact will only set one back less than $5 at the moment.

Leo is a highly speculative asset. Unlike Steem, Leo currently has no advantage to holding in terms of on-chain governance. Going forward I believe this will be one of the make or break attributes of these communities. There must be legitimate reasons to stake coins other than blind speculation.

Leo is also much more centralized and currently controlled by a single entity. This isn't necessarily bad, because the SteemEngine team can do highly experimental functions and smart contracts long before the Steem team can ever implement them. We can think of SteemEngine as a prototyping testnet for SMT protocol.

Do you like one community more than the other?
Do you see yourself more active on Steem or Leo?

# Conclusion
It looks like you're clearly interested in both, so invest in both.
* 1/3 Steem to 2/3 Leo is the risky spread.
* 50/50 would be like an even partnership.
* 2/3 Steem to 1/3 Leo is the safe play.

I've learned the hard way over the last two years that making the safe play is always the best idea because volatility is so high. When we make safe plays to lower that volatility we are much more likely to come out on top. To be fair, I'm not very good at taking my own advice.

👍 edicted, scorer

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@cflclosers · Nov 7 '19

I like how you broke this down.  I have about 1200 leo and I think I will just hang onto my steemp instead of buying more. I really wonder what smt's will do to the tribes. I do have have faith in Steem.leo but not sure about the others.

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