If you don't upvote things you don't like hearing, you don't support free speech. by freebornangel

freespeech · @freebornangel · Dec 5 '19

$6.45

If you don't upvote things you don't like hearing, you don't support free speech.

If you do not upvote viewpoints that clash with your own, you do not support free speech.

Unless you upvote ideas that just make you want to rip the heads off of morons and look into their necks, you do not support free speech.

You support speech that coincides with your view of the world.

![image.png](https://files.steempeak.com/file/steempeak/freebornangel/0KARlCdy-image.png)
[sbp](https://library.duke.edu/rubenstein/sites/default/files/rubenstein/bingham/collections/baskin/300x300/1930s---Goldman_Letters---D.jpg)

If you only reward ideas that you agree with, you will end up in an echo chamber looking for a corner to ponder in.

Instead of finding new ways to look at old ideas, you will just continue to circle the maypole of ideas that you already have.

I don't know if you have looked at the concept, dear reader, but it is not easy to have an original thought.
I thought I had one, but danged if some russian didn't already think it 150 years ago.

![image.png](https://files.steempeak.com/file/steempeak/freebornangel/C1c77OlR-image.png)
[sbp](https://enoughisenough14.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/wp-1484380297121.jpg)

I thought I was breaking new ground, but turns out, that new ground is hard to find, we live on a pretty well researched planet.

![image.png](https://files.steempeak.com/file/steempeak/freebornangel/GmEFvEeE-image.png)
[sbp](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lqIMFhf_KDA/UvYGRHkYrqI/AAAAAAAAANE/Egy8HPGwKY4/s1600/alexander-berkman.jpg)
[Read Alexander Berkman.](https://theanarchistlibrary.org/category/author/alexander-berkman)

What I do know, is that if I hadn't sought out speech that the lamestream of ideas had left on the dusty shelves of unused libraries, I would still be insulting anarchists everywhere by telling folks I am [AnCrap.](https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/the-anarchist-faq-editorial-collective-an-anarchist-faq-07-17)
Smdh.

I couldn't figure out why the fellas were all anticrapitalusts, then I read [Emma Goldman,](https://theanarchistlibrary.org/category/author/emma-goldman) and I knew.
Well, once [Ed Bellamy](https://archive.org/details/lookingbackward01bellgoog/page/n6) had clued me in.

I have been lied to my entire life.
Those economics classes were full of crap just to keep smart people busy looking into the dead ends.

The real deal has been hidden from us since the og modern anarchists got it printed into books.

Know why they got to put these ideas into print?
Because nobody could afford books back then, rich people will never adopt their ideas, and most folks don't read books, anyway.

That these ideas have survived into today's cancel culture is a testament to those that keep the sparks alive.

### We can have freedom, we just have to make some for ourselves.

## Be a flying ember to light fires in the [minds of men.](https://archive.org/details/fireinmindsofmen0000bill)

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@freebornangel · Dec 5 '19

$0.02

Neoxian city just booted me from their discord for calling bs on a liar that name dropped me.

@neoxian was there when the ban hammer fell.

Clearly they cancel instead of open their minds to opposing opinions.

Be forewarned, dear reader.

👍 dustsweeper, oldoneeye

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@oldoneeye · Dec 5 '19

Do you have the text/example by chance?  I boycott any enemies of free speech and truth.

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@freebornangel · Dec 5 '19 (edited)

They booted me before i could screenshot it.
They know what they are doing.

@neoxian is free to rebut my assertions, it's not like his ginabot failed to notify him of the mentions.


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@oldoneeye · Dec 5 '19

$0.05

I get your point, but logically I must not agree.

>*"If you don't upvote things you don't like hearing, you don't support free speech."*

I personally don't upvote anything deceptive that garners agenda driven misinformation.  I support 'Free Speech', but not deceit. 

Are you saying that we should just upvote, all content?

>*"If you only reward ideas that you agree with, you will end up in an echo chamber looking for a corner to ponder in."*

True, but what if you only reward content that you see as truthful and valuable.? What if, it has nothing to do with Confirmation Bias at all?

I could support **"If you downvote content you just don't 'like', then you do not support free speech"**...

👍 smallearth, bethvalverde, builderofcastles, aagabriel

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@freebornangel · Dec 5 '19

You get to do what you do.
I get an opinion about that.
If that is the totality of the transaction, all is good.
The problem comes when we start forcing our opinions on others.
We can do that, but i would expect blowback.

Until we can all sit in one room and debate our ideas openly, war is what we get.
No parent in their right mind wants war.

Subsequently, we have to allow those we disagree with their own space to be them.

It is ok not to support free speech, but be honest with yourself while you are oppressing ideas you don't like.
Saying you support free speech when you do things behind the speaker's back to sabotage his efforts is doublethinc, iyam.

I should disclaim here that i often toss ideas out there just to see if they float.
I don't always fully support the purviews i may purvey.

This one is a good engagement getter, @neoxian is not the first discord server to boot me.

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@oldoneeye · Dec 6 '19 (edited)

$0.03

I still fail to see how -not upvoting- someone is not supporting their free speech.
Like I said, if we upvoted everything, there would be no point in actual merit posts..

Supporting free speech is -*let the speech be*- if you don't like it, or debate it, or whatever......just don't censor it...

👍 smallearth, aagabriel

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5 replies

@oldoneeye · Dec 6 '19

Folks on this platform are getting censored right and left, hidden.... Sometimes a big enough upvote can take them out of hiding.......maybe this is what you mean?   I have done this, and tried to bring a hidden 'good content' post out of hiding, even if I did not agree with it.....but alas, my vote means nothing, here.

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4 replies

@builderofcastles · Dec 5 '19

The neat thing about technology is that it has made the getting out of words almost free.

And really, the "new" ideas that work to solve our situation often work out to be putting old things together in a new way.

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@freebornangel · Dec 5 '19

We stand on the shoulders of giants,...

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@darth-azrael · Dec 5 '19

I don't know... Just because you support free speech I don't think it means you have to reward it. That makes it sound like you are obligated to upvote everything. Having said that, I tend to leave at least a small upvote for anything I comment on regardless on whether I agree or disagree with the OP.

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@freebornangel · Dec 5 '19

Well, in steem, not downvoting it IS giving it money.
You wouldn't necessarily have to upvote it, to do that.

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@cyberdemon531 · Dec 5 '19

Free speech does not mean you deserve money every time you say words. If it did, we'd all be millionaires. Dumb post, bud.

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@freebornangel · Dec 5 '19

Nice opinion, thanks for showing it to us.

You, of course, get to do as you do.

I never said you had to upvote it, I just ask that you be honest with yourself, as you seem to have done, very well.

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@cyberdemon531 · Dec 5 '19

$0.02

;)

👍 freebornangel, dustbunny

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@aagabriel · Dec 6 '19

$0.02

Do you listen to every radio station all the time? 
Do you vote for every candidate running in elections? 

If you vote for everything then your vote becomes worthless. The value behind a vote is how you discern which is more worthy of a vote than others.

👍 freebornangel

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