Money on Poloniex? Check again! (left handed version) by htooms

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· @htooms · (edited)
$5.86
Money on Poloniex? Check again! (left handed version)
## Every time you sign on 

<P>There are small pauses with a note saying "your browser is being checked."</P>

![sub-buzz-28675-1487960375-7.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmTpgqTMCRYfi5k3wfu96s6FpqvUhX6W27cL8TTj9UsEHP/sub-buzz-28675-1487960375-7.jpg)

*<a href="https://www.buzzfeed.com/nicolenguyen/cloudflare-hack-2017-change-your-passwords?utm_term=.xeb25OrD8#.urJgK7ky0">source</a>*

Then you enter your password. All good.  But what's going on behind the scenes?

The reason for this annoyance dates back to the days when bitcoin was in its early days.  Sites like MtGox were getting DDoS attacks (Distributed Denial of Service) or in other words, *bots hitting the site over and over until nobody else can get on it.*  So there is a very good reason that Cloudflare came into existence.   They were very vocal about it too.   

>Cloudflare is checking your browser...

Then a few months ago in February 2017, news came out that millions of passwords were taken form Cloudflare.  


![Screenshot of cloudflare passwords hack - Startpage Web Search.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmZH4BawQQbdthAWtBP2Ur4tWCCQQudLsZtUkA2J2DiRKR/Screenshot%20of%20cloudflare%20passwords%20hack%20-%20Startpage%20Web%20Search.jpg)

*A quick search shows that my memory serves*

When I first heard the news, I wanted to see if Poloniex was using the hacked service to "care for" my passwords.    I went to Poloniex and logged in.     Well, it did not say the name Cloudflare, so I think I am safe. 

> Cloudflare said it had fixed a critical bug, discovered over the weekend, that had been leaking sensitive information such as website passwords in plain text from September 2016 to February 2017. Over 5.5 million websites use Cloudflare, including Fitbit, Uber, OkCupid, Medium, and Yelp.

*quote and photo from the same article <a href="https://www.buzzfeed.com/nicolenguyen/cloudflare-hack-2017-change-your-passwords?utm_term=.xeb25OrD8#.urJgK7ky0">here</a>*

## Trust broken

The company said they had fixed a bug.  Still, I would prefer not to have that company preloading something  in my browser, then collecting my password.   What Cloudflair's code should have been doing is checking browser history to see if the page has been loaded 25 times in the last minute to stop DDoS attacks,  NOT staying around to see what password I enter.

## Getting back to Poloniex

If the Poloniex site says "Your browser is being checked" and it  *does not* say by whom,  it leads the user to think that Poloniex is doing the checking of my browser.  That is fine by me, because Poloniex already has my password.

I am not a lawyer, but I think they have to let you know implicitly when and to whom you are being redirected, if passwords are being sent, stored, or collected, if not on site.   

Imagine my surprise when...

## Today I learned

TIL that if you are banned by an automated "owner" at Poloniex,  **the automated message still says Cloudflare**.  If I had known that, I would have stopped using that exchange long ago.   Pretty sneaky of Poloniex to continue using a service **known for taking and storing your passwords** and  pulling the name "Cloudflare" from the site.  People with common sense would likely stop trading there if they saw the name and had read the news.

![Screenshot of Access denied - poloniex.com used Cloudflare to restrict access (1).jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmbGBpV4UV2csTjMVKgu6zuCAkUsNQCQCdBnNmM2mrq9Fr/Screenshot%20of%20Access%20denied%20-%20poloniex.com%20used%20Cloudflare%20to%20restrict%20access%20(1).jpg)

I am not sure if I had any *real* money on Poloniex.   I have been okay with their recent overload, slowness, etc..  But the constant  trapping of my funds and now learning that there is a *legal* "man in the middle" leads me to call it quits with Poloniex.

## As many of you know

I started cashing out 4 weeks ago.  I started a Poloniex account as one of  many routes to sell $20,000 dollars worth of Steem per week.   I sent money to several places in order to change it for other cryptos, but Poloniex put a three day hold on my withdrawals a couple of weeks ago.   A bit perturbed, I tweeted that fact and they were quick to restore withdrawals.  

Now, a few weeks later, and I am locked out?  I only go there once per week (hardly a DDoS attampt)

Plus, I learn that they are still using an anti-DDoS scheme that should have been dumped when they broke trust three months ago.  

As many of you also know...  I am a nice person who likes to help.  But, as certain *wealthy investors, self appointed content judges, and dedicated assholes* will attest, I don't shy away from "big fish" here on Steemit and I flag back.  I am the same in the real world.   I am known for running full page ads, and buying up regions of foogle ads when I find that a company is a scam.  

 - - - 

**Final note:**

Apologies for the effortless short posts recently.  Great posts were flagged in the past.  Logic says silly ones won't be? Just testing what causes those flags - but thank you all so much for for voting and for your kind words!  If enough of you do, this htooms guy won't be another ghost-town account tossed out  by the self appointed owner of Steemit.

I wish I could respond to each and every comment - I loved that part of this platform!  My comments have been used as a tool to thumbs down anything posted by me.  When the idiots stop kicking me down, I will gladly engage with you all again!  And yes, I am still hitting back.  Yes, only hitting those who have 200,000.ooo SP, and who cluster-flag the little guys without good reason.

I am still looking for a way to upvote your comments too - last time I gave you each $1.00 and those were downvoted to nothing. :(  

Working on it...
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**Thanks for taking time to  read and resteem!**


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@dwinblood ·
$6.56
Good information.   Thank you for sharing.   Even though their fee is less than say bittrex I may skip using poloniex myself now.   Though I do not store any funds in poloniex long term.   I move what I can convert and usually move it somewhere else or convert it to fiat if I need the money.

Still this is important and thank you for sharing it.
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@barrydutton ·
Indeed man, this is a great post, but you guys know a lot more about online/crypto stuff than I ever will.  To see you in this post commenting.... is not lost on me as such Dwinner.  

I'm a hockey guy, we come up with nicknames like that LOL
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@dwinblood ·
Other than if you knew that dwinblood actually is D. Winblood and my last name is pronounce Wineblood.   So are you calling me a whiner?   :)   ***Just messing with you***   I tell people my handle is D WIN BLOOD also just for ease of not having to correct spelling and pronunciation. :P
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@dwinblood ·
$0.41
I don't know a lot about Crypto by the way.   I know enough to get by.   You might even know more than me. :)   I do know programming, and software engineering. :)
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@barrydutton ·
Tweeted this with pointed wording tagging Polo: 

https://twitter.com/BarryDutton/status/864557907148451845
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@nepd ·
$6.73
That is crazy. I probably keep too much of my crypto on Poloniex. I will have to reevaluate that... thanks for the prompt.
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@bryan-imhoff ·
$6.26
Not defending Poloniex in any way, but I seem to recall their announcements box on the right side speaking about the CloudFlare problem and urging members to change password and enable 2FA.  Although they may not announce it at the loading screen etc. I didn't get the feeling they were trying to hide anything.
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@thatsnumberwang ·
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True.
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@digicrypt ·
$6.25
Good info.Thanks
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@andu ·
$6.83
I started moving my stuff over from @poloniex last week after their 3rd DDOS. It's just getting silly with them also with their press release from today:  https://steemit.com/poloniex/@andu/poloniex-put-out-a-press-release-about-their-poor-performance-lately-i-call-bullshit
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@rahul.stan · (edited)
$6.63
Now I'm a bit afraid of using poloniex.
On the way to change my password.
Though I have 2fa on. Thanks for the info man!
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@seablue ·
$6.70
Interesting.  I've recently started taking my business to Bittrex myself.  Poloniex seems to making some poor business decisions.
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@sevinwilson ·
$6.64
That is interesting about poloniex.. may need to reevaluate!
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@buzzbeergeek ·
$6.84
Now I feel spooked! First @kingscrown suspects something, now you! :/
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@lighteye ·
$6.84
Scary story. Should be tagged as “horror”
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@barrydutton ·
$0.13
Great post on many things.

I am glad someone crypto-veteran like you, said something about the Polo browser *check* thing.

I noticed it ASAP when they implemented it, and it irked me, to say in a word... several words could be inserted there.

I cannot do much for you, but my votes to send you and also vote with my words.  I noticed you have gone fairly silent on me, I am not sure why, but as you know I value your input, lessons and support.

### And no matter what I certainly hope you prosper in all areas of your life.

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@barrydutton ·
$7.03
Tweeted this with pointed wording tagging Polo:  Followed you there as well just now. 

https://twitter.com/BarryDutton/status/864557907148451845
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@twitterbot ·
### ![BarryDutton](https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/854864179164987392/k3mqH1-D_normal.jpg) **[Barry Dutton](https://twitter.com/@BarryDutton/status/864557907148451845)** tweeted @ 16 May 2017 - 19:07 UTC

> Respected sharp [#Steemit](https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Steemit) [#Whale](https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Whale)- questions the [#privacy](https://twitter.com/search?q=%23privacy)/business policies of @Poloniex like many others: [#Crypto](https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Crypto)

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@mars9 ·
$6.34
Hello my friend
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It's good to see this wonderful post
I have looked for more knowledge
Thank you so much my friend
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@happyphoenix ·
$7.04
Thank you for sharing this. Now, I know why Poloniex always checking first our browser before we log in. Nice! :)
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@bleujay ·
$5.61
Keep Steeming @htooms.

All the best.  Cheers.
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@richman ·
$7.08
Actually I don't really understand how it's technically possible that passwords are stored anywhere in plain text. 2FA is a must these days.
Thanks for the upvotes btw :D
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@uwelang ·
$6.35
Thanks for the analysis - I opened an account and also discovered this strange browser check message, was wondering what it is about - luckily i have not any funds there yet. Resteeming
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@madlenfox ·
$6.89
Thank you that You shared with us @htooms.  I will take note of all these things. You made me think about this a lot more than usual. I'm grateful for it. I will reconsider my actions with this exchange more thoroughly. I'll post a link to Your post in my feed on Twitter.
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@sumsum ·
$6.35
@afrog have you seen this?
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@erikaflynn ·
$6.15
Thank you for the info! I also have some amount of cryptocurrency on Poloniex and You made me doubt their security.
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@dreemit ·
$6.66
I just came to check on you, I'm glad to see your posting again! Also that your posts are no longer muted. Now that I know you're here, I'll be voting to hopefully help that rep!
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@torem-di-torem ·
$6.68
Thank you for information. It is really useful and interesting.
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@rouketas ·
$7.37
Very good catch ! Well lately no where is safe,  i was withdrawing my funds from Poloniex, some btc in to my cold wallet and my trading amount to my trex account, but watching Trex slack i noticed lots of ppl account getting hacked (not using 2FA , noobs) What it worried me most is.. a friend of mine got hacked lost around 8btc BUT strange thing is the psw he was using on trex was only trex psw not used everywhere else, so is this a inside job ??
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@cassidyandfranks ·
$0.29
Crosses fingers...
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