Review of Memories, Dreams, Reflections by kwilley

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Review of Memories, Dreams, Reflections
<p> I listened to Carl Jung’s <em>Memories, Dreams, Reflections</em> <a href="https://amzn.to/2J8j6Ss">(Amazon affiliate link)</a> on audiobook. It’s a large book, and it was of interest to me largely because I’ve studied a lot of Jung’s ideas (and their derivatives as presented by Campbell. Pearson, and Peterson) and I wanted to get a more intimate picture of Jung’s views and life so that I could put his work in context.</p>
<p>As a memoir, it’s interesting. It’s definitely one of the more difficult memoirs out there, but it’s still got the sort of personal interest that you’re going to see in most memoirs. Because Jung is something of a revolutionary thinker, it’s often a little difficult to follow what he talks about, and I was glad to have read <em>Man and His Symbols</em> <a href="http://blog.homoeoteleuton.com/review-and-reflection-man-and-his-symbols/">(my review)</a> and <em>Modern Man in Search of a Soul</em> prior to tackling <em>Memories, Dreams, Reflections</em>.</p>
<p>Those hoping for an intimate picture will be perplexed. Jung is entirely open about his outer life, and most of his inner life, but there are things which he withholds from his memoir that would be of particular interest given that they would have peculiar interest in a psychoanalytic context. This is a vague description, but it’s the best I can do, because the withholdings are themselves eclectic: seemingly minute but yet significant enough that Jung mentions them in their exclusion.</p>
<p>At the same time, one gets a picture of who Jung is; albeit one that is scattered between significant points in his life. His adult life is largely unmentioned, sometimes explicitly out of respect for those who are living and who might be impacted, but at other times one has to wonder why Jung chose to skip over so much of his own personal life and whether it is that he considered some things self-evident, if they escaped his notice, if they were intentionally withheld, or if they simply weren't able to be worked into the book.</p>
<p>Jung’s early life and religious experiences get an intensive focus at the start of the book, and his father plays a particularly interesting role as a sort of anti-Jung: someone who has stifled his visions and stuck comfortably with the role of a conforming member of society. Jung’s first symbolic dreams and impulses are recorded here, and one can get a picture of him as a unique individual very early on.</p>
<p>As someone who had to read some Freud in college, I find Jung’s recounting of his professional and personal relationships with Freud as particularly interesting (not to mention the letters published in the appendices which Freud wrote to Jung). While going into depth about their relationship would require either a crash course in the teachings of both men or an assumption that the reader is familiar with both, it's worth noting that Jung's perspective on his time spent both as heir apparent and then disgraced pariah in Freud's eyes is covered, albeit not in great detail when compared to Jung's early life.</p>
<p>Letters from Freud were included in the appendix, which give Freud's perspective (at least as he communicated it to Jung), and Jung has interesting thoughts on Freud that are not necessarily unique to Jung but benefit from the personal relationship they shared.</p>
<p>Jung’s travels make up another section of the book. While some of the language he uses is outdated, and he is not an anthropologist, he has a great deal of insight and respect for what he calls “primitive” people, and particularly respects their beliefs as being no less sophisticated, though perhaps less well communicated and developed by exposure to other ideas, than those of the modern West.</p>
<p>On one hand, he goes into much less detail here than he does in <em>Modern Man in Search of a Soul</em>, but he also adds the personal element of his experiences into the mix, giving some context that is otherwise missing, and he also recounts particular events in greater detail, like his experiences with Native American solar faiths.</p>
<p>As is usual, one gets the impression of Jung that he is so brilliant that people have a hard time telling where he is right and wrong: sometimes giving him too much credit and at others discounting everything that he has discovered. As a visionary, he presents a view of the world that has a sort of mystical magnificence to it, where dream and reality blur.</p>
<p>Of course, dream and reality are perceived through the same faculties, and there’s an element of truth to Jung’s ideas, but one also gets he sense that he lets himself descend into revelry. He espouses strong support for metaphysical persistence of the psyche (I mean, as a devout Christian I do as well, but my own approach is to accept on faith, not to have intuited it myself), but does so almost entirely based on the notion of logic driven from experiences of the unconscious, intuition, and precedent in cultural and religious phenomena.</p>
<p>There was a fairly long section of <em>Memories, Dreams, and Reflections</em> which could be described as positively New Age, but if one considers that Jung expresses the totality of his beliefs without reservation, there’s probably not so much airy dreaming as actual thought in most of his claims. It’s also worth noting that a lot of Jung’s terminology has come to mean something else than it originally had (e.g. psychic meaning “to have a relationship with the psyche” rather than charlatan fortune-telling), so what sounds like quackery may have a firmer empirical foundation than otherwise expected.</p>
<p>Near the end, there are very interesting questions about the role that individualism, spirituality, and social progress will play in the coming era, and I actually found it to be one of the most well-reasoned discussions of what has become an in vogue topic. Jung’s assertion that individuals have to accept the unknown and the unconscious to pursue individuation within the pattern of complete being (I simplify at the risk of causing confusion) as an antidote to the totalitarianism of the 20th century is something that I think is incredibly valuable, and echoes my own personal experiences of self-development in recent years.</p>
<p>Jung also gives a great breakdown of his concept of archetypes, though he doesn’t go into depth about particular archetypes.</p>
<p>The audiobook is read by James Cameron Stewart, who does a good job of it. I don’t have any complaints with the audiobook, and Stewart sounds like one would expect Jung to sound (though not necessarily a match for Jung). There weren’t any issues that I found as I listened on Audible.</p>
<p>Basically, if you want an introductory overview of the work of Jung, this probably isn’t what you’re looking for. As a memoir it frustrates its purpose by being so deeply tied to Jung’s theories and work that I would have a hard time recommending it to anyone who is not already familiar with Jung’s ideas.</p>
<p>However, as a companion to Jung’s other work it is illuminating.</p>
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> he presents a view of the world that has a sort of mystical magnificence to it, where dream and reality blur.

I guess now we know where Jordan Peterson is coming from! Not that he ever hid his admiration for Jung.
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As someone who read Peterson first (and, in particular, *[Maps of Meaning](http://blog.homoeoteleuton.com/review-and-reflection-maps-of-meaning/)*), then Jung, I always found it interesting to see how Peterson has developed Jung's ideas.

Jung is brilliant, but also revolutionary. A lot of his ideas are very rough (to use an imperfect term) and benefit from further analysis and clarification. Sometimes this was possible with his contemporaries (*Man and His Symbols*, which I reference in the body of the post), and sometimes it has benefited from the work of later scholars like Campbell, Pearson, and Peterson.
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