<center>http://i.imgur.com/8ypFed9.jpg</center> If you get unjustly beat up, that means the attacker is bad, but it doesn’t necessarily mean you are good. Being the victim of oppression doesn’t automatically make any individual, or any group, automatically noble and virtuous. Bad people can be wrongfully injured too, and they don’t like it either. A lot of people being mistreated today would, if given the chance, be mistreating others tomorrow. The sign of being a decent human being is not whether you are being abused; it’s whether, given the opportunity, you would *refrain* from abusing others. For example, in this country’s history different minority groups—blacks, homosexuals, American Indians, etc.—have been brutalized. But all those groups are still just made up of mere mortal *people*, and many of the individuals in those groups would be just as quick to mistreat others if the power was in their hands. If you doubt this, watch any political campaign. When the Democrats are in power, the Republicans *rightly* complain about being forced to comply with a leftist agenda. But the moment the Republicans are in power, the tables turn, and then the Democrats *rightly* complain about being forced to comply with a right-wing agenda. <center>http://i.imgur.com/aTIU6Ug.jpg</center> In a sense, you could say that both of them deserve it. If you play a game where you try to forcibly control others, and you lose the game, and then they forcibly control you, that doesn’t make you one bit more virtuous; it just makes you a slightly less successful tyrant. You could say that a sort of side corollary of, “Do unto others as you would have done onto you,” is, “If you do it to others, don’t be shocked and offended when they do it to you.” In South Africa, for a long time British whites inflicted severe oppression, even murder, upon black Africans. Now some black Africans are doing the same thing in the other direction. And oppressors always have some excuse for why it’s okay, even necessary, when they do it. But it’s still just people wanting power over other people. And being a violent thug doesn’t become noble and righteous just because you’re in a certain demographic category. <center>http://i.imgur.com/HPw6A3d.jpg</center> Unfortunately, Hollywood movies tend to reinforce the bogus notion that the oppressed people are the good people. And this false impression is why certain groups try so hard to achieve and maintain “victim status” in the eyes of the public, so that their own nastiness gets judged less harshly, or not at all. For example, someone who opposes the violent, terroristic, mass-murdering ruling class of Israel can expect to be called “anti-semitic,” and compared to Hitler. The ultimate and sad irony is that the authoritarian, militaristic *state* of Israel in many ways resembles the Third Reich. Jews are just people, and they can be oppressors just as much as they can be the oppressed. <center>http://i.imgur.com/aj02Pbn.jpg</center> Another example is when people declare that black people cannot be racist, which is a profoundly ridiculous assertion, especially when there are quite a few examples of some black *individuals* committing violence against white people, and openly admitting that it was *because* those people were white. And the absurd pack-mentality behind that is shared by some whites, who think that violent thugs should be judged and condemned less harshly if they belong to a certain demographic *category*. (Ironically, that *is* racism, and exactly what Martin Luther King, Jr. railed against: judging a man by the color of his skin, instead of the content of his character.) The problem is when people assign virtue or vice, credit or blame, to entire *categories* of people, rather than to those *individuals* who choose to commit certain actions. The sad truth is that, because violence begets violence, and being abused often creates new abusers, those who are *victimized* by authoritarian aggression are often the most eager to grab for the reins of power to become the new authoritarian aggressors. One injustice is often used as the excuse to impose a new injustice. A fine fictional example is “*Escape From Enlightenment*,” a story that takes place in a world where those nasty, violent, oppressive heterosexual males have been put in their place, and now the world is ruled by women—lesbian women, to be precise. (I found it rather amusing that some people, either from the description of the plot, or from reading the book, thought the book must be a description of what Tessa was actually advocating.) <center>http://i.imgur.com/qlH0EKg.jpg</center> <center>http://www.escapefe.com</center> While getting bullied should earn you sympathy, it does not, in and of itself, make you virtuous. Being weak is not a virtue, either. If you didn’t victimize others, simply because you didn’t have the ability or the chance to, that doesn’t make you noble. When you’ve been given the opportunity to dominate others, and you chose *not* to, *that* is what makes you virtuous. Unfortunately, *no one* who votes for a ruler can claim such a virtue. And in the recent insane spectacle known as a “presidential election,” it could hardly have been a more glaring example of two groups of rabid control freaks, each desperately trying for the chance to forcibly dominate the other. I want everyone to be free, but I might settle for a world in which only those who *choose* to fight over the “Ring of Power” could be victimized by that power, while those who choose non-aggression and peaceful coexistence would be beyond its reach. But alas, that’s not the world we live in. <center>http://i.imgur.com/sKirjBW.jpg</center> Though this may seem obscure and random, I will leave you with a quote from Emanuel Swedenborg (it doesn’t matter if you know who he is, or anything about the religion based on his writings). This is from a passage where he is describing what Hell is like: “*The subordinations in hell are those of despotic authority, and consequently of severity; for he who commands, rages fiercely against those who do not favor all his commands; for every one regards another as his enemy, although outwardly as a friend for the sake of banding together against the violence of others. This banding together is like that of robbers. They who are subordinate continually aspire to rule, and also frequently break forth in revolt, and then the conditions there are lamentable, for then there are severities and cruelties; and this takes place by alternations*.” (Arcana Coelestia, 7773)
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Cmon being a victim makes you a hero if you can spit your tongue out at your torturer as a way of saying you'll get nothing from me. The presidents aren't in positions of power. Don't panic no one is in control
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It's like a competition out there to see who can score the most victim points. If you're the biggest victim, you automatically win the debate and whatever else you might want. Your absolutely right. Victimhood is not a virtue and those who flaunt their "victim-status" tend to be among the least virtuous, most power hungry, and most violent people around.
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I had to unlearn my victim conditioning. It was difficult to change because those who benefited from my behavior powered out on me, trying to force me back into old habit patterns and I had to face how profitable it was for me staying a victim.
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Sorry but your statements regarding Israel were utter nonsense. Israel is easily the most well regulated and morally motivated Military in the world. While the Palestinians are using women and children as human shields, only to force Israel to stop firing, attempt to retrieve the human shields , then in some cases get attacked with suicide bombings by those very people. Israel has time and time again been as open to peaceful solutions to the conflict, yet the Arabs turn them down every time, then attack. What is the state of Israel supposed to do in these situations,
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Like every state, the STATE of Israel shouldn't exist. But you seem to be falling for the same provably false nationalist BS that the Israeli and U.S. political parasites spew. "We're only defending ourselves against those nasty terrorists!" If you don't see the countless atrocities committed by the state of Israel, it's because you're trying NOT to see them. (P.S. Pointing to nasty things that the "other side" does--which is easy in most cases, including this one--is not a good excuse for being a terrorist or a murderer.)
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Here it is from Israeli soldiers themselves. https://theintercept.com/2015/05/04/samples-israeli-horrific-brutality-war-criminality-gaza/
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I live in the Middle East for 15 years and what you are saying is total mainstream utter non-sense. Palestine was a legitimate country before the state of Israel was created and these people (Palestinians) have been marginalized and put in life circumstances that you would not even subject a street dog to. So before you make grandiose statements about something you don't know anything about (apart from mainstream tel-lie-vision parroting back phrases) visit the places first and talk to the people then you see the world as it really is.
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We are all victims of Statism. Have you seen Bitconnect, it could be the next Unicorn coin of crypto. ![unicorn of a coin.png](https://steemitimages.com/DQmdtMHDrYGKLXipf7dxrBkfMKWnPjNQVUNRJGj2Div4c2d/unicorn%20of%20a%20coin.png) https://bitconnect.co/?ref=lasseehlers https://steemit.com/bitconnect/@lasseehlers/bitconnect-mlm-cryptocurrency-lending-investing-mining-all-in-one-token-this-is-the-real-illuminati-spaceship-to-the-moon-i
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Hey Larken Rose, sorry that messages was a little hard to understand.... I understand, its not simple... I want to tell you that there came something new called Bitconnect, and it is like VERY VERY GREAT!!... its like banking on the blockchain with a referral program... but with no evil state and no freemasons/illuminati and all that crap... its best if you signup first then ask questions... trust me on this one... ....: https://steemit.com/bitconnect/@lasseehlers/bitconnect-the-next-huge-thing-in-crypto-land-signup-first-ask-questions-later-i-guarantee-you-will-like-this https://bitconnect.co/?ref=lasseehlers
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Would you mind doing another update video on "The Mirror"? I've been donating to the project and would like to know that it's at least progressing.
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This is an incredible post. You articulated a lot of my feelings on the subject that I couldn't express so eloquently. Please keep writing. Looking forward to more articles.
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