@tipu curate 1.5

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@tipu cancel curation self-voting
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You make some valid points. For me the gamification will end up dividing the curators in 3 categories :
1) Circle-voters. People will vote first with Tipu, then with their circle-voting accounts, getting high curation rewards for Tipu but allowing them to fuel further their voting circle with Tipu's SP.
2) Maximizers. People who blindly upvote content to maximize returns. They will also get a big part of Tipu's SP, allowing them to earn money from curation without having any proprietary SP.
3) Genuine curators : These will never have access to Tipu's SP as the two categories above will get all of Tipu's SP.

If you start to have moderation, "star" curators, etc... you just end up with a curation bot like ocdb or appreciator / rocky1, smartsteem, etc... It's good too, but tipu has always been innovative, shouldn't stop now.

My opinion would be that you won't find a system that suits and optimizes resources with all these different categories out there.

For the 
1) Circle-voters : Just ban them. You analyze the curator's CSI and the votes coming after the curator's CSI. This way, if CSI are low in both cases, you know you have a circle-voter and auto-ban him.
2) You create a real curation system for optimization (let's not forget tipu runs thanks to the delegators who except a ROI on their delegated SP) : you pay the curators to optimize tipu's voting. You allocate to them 50% of tipu's VP. Let's call this the OO (optimized operation).
3) You create a gamified league, not revolving around getting liquid rewards but just getting more curation possibilities : essentially what the system is currently., but with having excluded the two above categories. You allocate 50% to Tipu's VP here. Let's call this GO (gamified operation).

You also need to make sure there's a turnover for the GO (OO being based on pure optimization, you can let the "free market" do its job), but this system can not be based on optimizing or it will defeat the purpose. Maybe base it on CSI (diversification of votes) or another unit of measurement.
This way you got the OO part that allow tipu to continue reward its delegators with a correct APR and the GO part that benefits all of the Steem ecosystem (allowing people to taste what it's like to have a bit of SP, as you said, it might incentize a lot of people to power up).

So for me, the OO part can be done pretty easily as it's all mathematical.
The GO part is the one that needs a lot of thought, as if you base it on curation rewards, you'll only duplicate the OO, but to be really interesting, you need to find an incentive for content discovery (how to measure that ?) but also allow a correct turnover of curators (so that a lot of people can try it out).

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Thanks for the feedback :) 

The idea to create review team was already proposed by couple users so most probably we're gonna go that way.

I also love the idea to create website section just to review the recent curation votes - this will be really helpful :)

Ultimately I think it's impossible to design a system that prohibits any abuse but we can get close with manual validation. Cheers!

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>The game mechanics incentive to vote on stuff which is likely to always pay out high

Not true imo. Voting on these posts will at least not bring you high up the ranks. Go through that list of the most successful authors which you have shared and try for yourself to achieve more than 100% curation efficiency on any of their posts. Good luck with that :)

What the game mechanics incentivizes most is to find the hidden gems in the new section. Those posts that are still at (almost) zero payout at the 5 minute mark but turn out to be popular at a later time-point.

Cool hadn't heard of the tipu curation project before receiving a tip from u last night and then reading your post.  Want to nominate me as a curator?  I already spend a ton of time curating (am one of the founders of @c-squared / @c-cubed) and it would be nice to be able to give an extra updoot to the real gems I come across.  Cheers

Jan, congratulations! I look forward! Because your kind community style i will integrate you into my steemauto voter.

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